Islamophobia

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Babs03

“It is not splendid when it becomes obsessional, its becomes a mental health issue and is worrying.”

Rather nasty dig there Teazel2. Whitewavemark isn’t obsessional and I wouldn’t say that anyone who becomes singularly absorbed by the evils in society and how to combat them has mental health problems. I heartily wish there were more like this in our society today rather than those seeking to spread hatred and division.

It was more than a nasty dig - it was blatant gaslighting.

Can you explain exactly how it is blatant gaslighting? I would be worried for the mental health of anyone so obsessed with racism. Its not something that ever crosses my mind until .I come on here.

I dont give two hoots what you or anyone else thinks about my posts btw.

teazel for someone who doesn’t give two hoots about racism, weird that you waste your time reading the thread😄😄😄.

Being rude cuts no ice with me I am afraid, the more anyone behaves like that on threads the less I respect their arguments.

I dont care two hoots what other posters say when responding to my posts, not about racism!

I wasnt actually intending to be rude, just concerned that racism seems to be such an obsession for some, not something .I really think about much. I take people as fellow,human beings regardless of the colour of their skin.

Well that's great to hear Teazel2, unfortunately some people are making great political capital in stirring it up for everyone.

I don’t think anyone is obsessed with racism, is a weird word to use really, but some are concerned about it, others fear it because they suffer the sharp end of racism regularly.
I must admit that there seems to be far more obsessing about small boats.

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Mt61

From what I could see there was plenty of black & brown faces in that march.
Haven’t we have to put up with those Palestinians marches- from the ‘river to sea’ to me, says ‘flatten Israel’.
They have been able to fly their flags since that 7th September horrific, atrocity.

October 🙄

Just coming to this thread I thought it was about Islamaphobia- now it has turned into a thread about racism.

The Islamic community has had to do a lot of hard work to demonstate they are are not all Jihadists, would be terrorists or religious fanatics.

Most Muslims are just wanting to get on with their lives, raise their families and contribute to the economic and social well-being of the communities and indeed the countries they live in. If they wish to practise their faith poenly whilst doing so then they should be free to do so whilst observing the rule of law like anyone else.

Not all asylum seekers are Muslim, so at the very least (scraping the barrel) it has taken some pressure off the 'illegal immigrants' and changed the narrative a little.

I find this post both inflammatory and unneccesary.

We need to be calming the fires, not stoking them.

The OP was a leader article in one of the main Sunday Newspapers. This was widely disseminated, so it certainly is a suitable subject for discussion.

The Unit the Kingdom rally is echoing what is happening in the USA. The white supremicists are rapidly gaining a foothold, largely by the lack of opposition. We simply can’t allow that state of affairs to grow in the U.K.

The Unite the Kingdom

It's really a bit of a misnomer, isn't it!

We need to be calming the fires, not stoking them

Totally agree.
The opening post is full of inflammatory remarks, and words.
Everyone can play their part in peace.

fancythat

^We need to be calming the fires, not stoking them^

Totally agree.
The opening post is full of inflammatory remarks, and words.
Everyone can play their part in peace.

Perhaps you could address your comments to The Observer🙄

But that is not the point.

I would not dream of finding infammatory material somewhere in the universe and repeating it here.

If I did want to genuinely discuss some of the points, I would reword things.
A lot in this case.

fancythat

But that is not the point.

I would not dream of finding infammatory material somewhere in the universe and repeating it here.

If I did want to genuinely discuss some of the points, I would reword things.
A lot in this case.

I’ll remember that when we’re presented with long ‘inflammatory’ quotes from The Telegraph.

Not sure you are meaning me.
Not sure I have ever quoted from the Telegraph.

But yes, everyone should aim for peace.

May I disagree, agreeably? I think we should post the things we see in newspapers even if some will disagree with our comments or with what has been posted. I agree with what the Observer said about the march except for the last sentence. I'm very much against banning marches unless they are promoted by proscribed organisations. Hopefully many more people will now realise that although they joined the march for reasons completely different to those that were expoused by Tommy Robinson and his ilk, they are still, in effect, supporting him.

May I disagree, agreeably?

Sure!

I dont agree with inflammatory stuff though.
And quite frankly, if the Observer and Telegraph[I dont read lots from many newspapers], are being inflammatory, then that is alarming.

Many people take their cues from the media. Whether they realise it or not.

I agree with you fancythat👍🏻

Agree with you too keepingquiet you make good points.

foxie48

May I disagree, agreeably? I think we should post the things we see in newspapers even if some will disagree with our comments or with what has been posted. I agree with what the Observer said about the march except for the last sentence. I'm very much against banning marches unless they are promoted by proscribed organisations. Hopefully many more people will now realise that although they joined the march for reasons completely different to those that were expoused by Tommy Robinson and his ilk, they are still, in effect, supporting him.

And silencing the criticism is not clever.

Much wiser people have recognised that to remain silent will end in disaster.

Martin Niemoller knew of what he spoke. We should listen to their wisdom.

Who mentioned silence?
No one has mentioned being silent.

There in an in between.

It is all able to be done without being inflammatory at all.

I could rewrite the opening post for you, and subject heading.
But that would be patronising you surely.

Or you could post a link[though not sure everyone can read one behind a paywall?] and then write something?

tbh, if newspapers are being inflammatory, then that fact needs to be debated at a wider level.
If they are doing that, therein lies a whole heap of trouble going forward.

fancythat

Who mentioned silence?
No one has mentioned being silent.

There in an in between.

It is all able to be done without being inflammatory at all.

Whom is the OP inflaming?

fancythat

I could rewrite the opening post for you, and subject heading.
But that would be patronising you surely.

Or you could post a link[though not sure everyone can read one behind a paywall?] and then write something?

tbh, if newspapers are being inflammatory, then that fact needs to be debated at a wider level.
If they are doing that, therein lies a whole heap of trouble going forward.

Go on then! Rewrite it.

Anyone in the world who reads the opening post, and is inclined to be that way.