Trump to run Gaza with … Blair.

JennyCee

Maybe my memory is short here, or convenient, but didn’t Tony Blair anoint himself as Middle East Peace Envoy?
Apologies if I’m wrong

I think it was a UN position.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/27/tony-blair-resigns-as-middle-east-peace-envoy-report

It was over ten years ago anyway and after that he founded the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change in 2016, and currently serves as its Executive Chairman. Its aim is to counter populism and extremism.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

This has been on the cards for many months now. Blair has been active both in the Middle East with the Arab nations and Washington, beginning to get the basics together for an interim government.

You will find fewer people more knowledgable about the Middle East so if this can be pulled off then - bloody brilliant. Of course Blair and the USA were involved in the GFA with almost impossible odds. So all power to them I say if it saves a single child’s life or ends such dreadful suffering.
Frankly I couldn’t give a damn about Blair’s past in this, I wish him every success with all my might.

Peace for the people of Israel and Gaza -

Just quoting this again as I agree with every word.There will be no better way to get the hostages out alive, it’s a last chance for them and for hamas to get out of there and a safety measure for anyone in Gaza City.It could bring things to an end straight away, and Tony Blair is a very good choice.

I’m reposting as I’m another in agreement.

Blair was wrong on .iraq but he’s been right on many things. He’s a skilled negotiator and I’ve no reason to doubt he wants peace

Well, if he has Trump on-side he might have a chance of succeeding but I'm wondering just what he has achieved so far over the past 18 years.
Maybe I am just a sceptic.

There are others who will be named in next few days

All we can do is wait and see if Hamas accepts the deal, then it will depend on what “actually” happens.

If the US is funding the peace keeping force and rebuilding, others will join in everyone wants peace in Gaza

A senior Hamas figure has told the BBC that they are likely to reject Trump's plan as it serves Israel's interests and ignores those if the Palestinians.

There are Hamas residing in Qatar , and those on the ground in Gaza. It will be the Qatar contingent who will likely to have had some input into the baseline document. It will, be those on the ground who have not been consulted who will object to it I think.

Let us hope the “bosses” in Qatar prevail.

Hope so 🙏

Re Gaza - the global aid flotilla to Gaza is about to enter the dangerzone in about 15 minutes time. They are streaming their yachts about to sail into it live - especially so that the world will know/see if they are attacked by the Israeli Government. Videos up there now on YouTube giving the live coverage.......

The live coverage is up there on various channels from various countries. Probably the best is the Maktoob channel on YouTube. Heading is "LIVE: Global Sumud Flotilla entering 'danger area' near Gaza"

Worth a try but.... there will never be peace in Middle East. Trump wants The Nobel Peace Prize and Heaven knows about Blair! Don't treast any of them.

The three of them: Netanyahu, Trump and Bliar should be in prison.

Does this mean that, if Hamas doesn’t agree, Trump is gives Israel permission to kill more children in Gaza by bombing or starvation?

Trump gives

Netanyahu has to persuade the far right of his government, - Smotrich has already rejected it completely.

Hamas has the words of “finish the job” ringing in their ears if they reject the plan, which whilst not meeting many of their demands does meet some of them - so it is a start, and likely to be the best they can get from the USA and Israel.

Israel will not annex or occupy Gaza, and thousands of Palestinians prisoners are to be released.

The UN is to resume full responsibility for all aid, and the Egyptian entrance is to be reopened.

No one will be forced to leave.

But - so far the framework doesn’t make clear when the IDF will leave Gaza, so the plan for Hamas to de-arm as part of the plan looks shaky to say the least.

Once the hostages are released the framework apparently looks shaky as to whether war will resume or not - WHAT😮!

Once peace has been established it is not decided who will run Gaza/Palestine once the two tier interim government has completed its work (I can’t see me living to see this quite frankly). Netanyahu flatly refuses to give any consideration to the favoured PA. But perhaps given the fact that this will be years into the future the Palestinians can be more relaxed about that?
Statehood is of course anathema to Netanyahu.

Qatar, Egypt and Turkey are urging Hamas to accept Trump's plan. As they support Hamas they have some influence with them.

Lots of notes of caution and pessimism.

One Josh Paul - an American official, says that there are two fatal flaws in the plan.

The first - anything proposed will prioritise economic development over political development and Palestinian self-determination.
Economic success depends on Palestinian self-rule and the basic freedoms of movement and goods - it can’t succeed without that.
Second. Whatever the merits - it will be endorsed by Israel, who wil, then proceed to prevent their implementation by a death of a thousand cuts - making even the simplest objectives impossible.

WWM

“Once the hostages are released the framework apparently looks shaky as to whether war will resume or not - WHAT😮!”

This is what I fear most, that having satisfied critics in Israel with regard to not caring about the release of the hostages, Bibi will go back to his bombing campaign claiming one reason or another for doing so.

AGAA4

Qatar, Egypt and Turkey are urging Hamas to accept Trump's plan. As they support Hamas they have some influence with them.

Let’s hope they succeed, I imagine one of those countries will take Hamas leaders etc., when offered an amnesty. But Hamas will be hesitant, they know that Mossad have a long reach and that fatal accidents can happen, even on someone else’s turf, several Iranian scientists working on the nuclear programme met with a similar end.
However, that’s the gamble they decided to take when taking up arms I suppose.

I would have thought Blair was to busy helping his son make billions from the proposed ID cards.

Whitewavemark2

Lots of notes of caution and pessimism.

One Josh Paul - an American official, says that there are two fatal flaws in the plan.

The first - anything proposed will prioritise economic development over political development and Palestinian self-determination.
Economic success depends on Palestinian self-rule and the basic freedoms of movement and goods - it can’t succeed without that.
Second. Whatever the merits - it will be endorsed by Israel, who wil, then proceed to prevent their implementation by a death of a thousand cuts - making even the simplest objectives impossible.

The problem is these people can’t ’self rule’

These people ! You mean Palestinians ?

Menopauselbitch

I would have thought Blair was to busy helping his son make billions from the proposed ID cards.

fullfact.org/technology/digital-id-euan-blair/

You might want to read this before you continue to repeat false information.

@Menopausalbitch

“The problem is these people can’t ’self rule’”

Oh dear, that old chestnut, let’s just consider a people who have been oppressed and kicked from pillar to post, not as a people who just need some time and space to consider their options with regard to governance, but as unable to self rule’.
The simple fact is that given the infrastructure and security needed to have their own state every human being would be able to figure out how to self rule.
We’ve been doing it for millennia.

Let’s not put the cart before the horse , Palestinians will need a lot of help before self rule, statehood or anything else of that nature can unfold.
Getting what’s left of hamas on the ground to agree terms is the first thing.Their leaders, from the comfort of luxurious apartments in Qatar and elsewhere will want to agree to save themselves but the ones in Gaza City will hardly be able to bear the humiliation of giving up the hostages and leaving without a fight.