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Trump to run Gaza with … Blair.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 29-Sept-25 20:02:14

Was this on anyone's bingo card?

foxie48 Thu 02-Oct-25 09:02:29

Annie I think you need to read the 20 point plan and read a transcript of what Netanyahu said in his speech. I've done both and it has given me a much better understanding of the situation. You could also listen to the Rest is politics podcast entitled, Trump has a new plan for "eternal peace" in Gaza, free to listen to. I won't supply links as you have already said that you don't follow links posted on GN but it's very easy to find.

Anniebach Thu 02-Oct-25 09:12:25

Quote foxie48 Thu 02-Oct-25 09:02:29
Annie I think you need to read the 20 point plan and read a transcript of what Netanyahu said in his speech. I've done both and it has given me a much better understanding of the situation. You could also listen to the Rest is politics podcast entitled, Trump has a new plan for "eternal peace" in Gaza, free to listen to. I won't supply links as you have already said that you don't follow links posted on GN but it's very easy to find.

I have read the 20 point plan ,

GrannyGravy13 Thu 02-Oct-25 09:47:50

I wouldn’t trust a Trump/Blair partnership to run a bath…

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Oct-25 10:44:27

GrannyGravy13

I wouldn’t trust a Trump/Blair partnership to run a bath…

In the absence of anything else?

I think that the French and Arab states had also agreed a plan, but they do not have Israeli and USA involvement. So that is a no goer.

The French have signed up to the Trump plan now though.

Oreo Thu 02-Oct-25 10:57:49

AGAA4

It's the Fat Cats in the Knesset that are most worrying. Netanyahu has already reneged on the agreement by saying that the IDF will remain in parts of Gaza if a peace deal is acceptable to Hamas.
Meanwhile in Gaza city the IDF have said they will treat anyone who is still there as terrorists and they will be killed. So those who have been unable to leave the elderly, sick and the family who won't leave them will be fair game to the IDF.

So to be clear…you think the politicians in the Knesset are the most worrying, more so than any of hamas?Are you really saying that?

Oreo Thu 02-Oct-25 10:59:18

The plan included a very gradual withdrawal of the IDF, they were never going to just disappear from Gaza, that wouldn’t work at all.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Oct-25 11:07:51

Oreo

AGAA4

It's the Fat Cats in the Knesset that are most worrying. Netanyahu has already reneged on the agreement by saying that the IDF will remain in parts of Gaza if a peace deal is acceptable to Hamas.
Meanwhile in Gaza city the IDF have said they will treat anyone who is still there as terrorists and they will be killed. So those who have been unable to leave the elderly, sick and the family who won't leave them will be fair game to the IDF.

So to be clear…you think the politicians in the Knesset are the most worrying, more so than any of hamas?Are you really saying that?

Well, the far right totally reject the plan, and want a complete ethnic cleansing of Palestine so the state of Israel stretches from the river Jordan to the Mediterranean

Quite worrying for peace I think.

With regard to Hamas - once they agree to the plan, in theory they will become redundant as far as Gaza is concerned.

The question is , who takes over. Logically and I think the plan supports this it will be the PA, but for reasons known only to himself Netanyahu completely rejects them.

AGAA4 Thu 02-Oct-25 11:34:12

To answer your question Oreo yes I do think there are those in the Knesset who are worrying. One way or another Hamas are finished for now.
There are members of the Knesset who have rejected the peace plan, who have always wanted Gaza 'cleansed' of Palestinians.

Oreo Thu 02-Oct-25 12:18:10

They aren’t worse than hamas tho!
And the very right wing in the Knesset will be sidelined in this peace plan.

Anniebach Thu 02-Oct-25 13:05:25

GAA4 Thu 02-Oct-25 11:34:12
To answer your question Oreo yes I do think there are those in the Knesset who are worrying. One way or another Hamas are finished for now.
There are members of the Knesset who have rejected the peace plan, who have always wanted Gaza 'cleansed' of Palestinians.

Hamas wants to free the planet of Jews

AGAA4 Thu 02-Oct-25 13:18:37

Not just Hamas Anniebach. There are some horrible people in the world today as today's killing in Manchester proves.

Anniebach Thu 02-Oct-25 13:41:39

AGAA4 Thu 02-Oct-25 13:18:37
Not just Hamas Anniebach. There are some horrible people in the world today as today's killing in Manchester proves.

You. Spoke of some MP’s in Israeli elected government, I quoted Hamas who has declared they will murder of Jews in their Covenant , Hamas is the elected government of Gaza

SilverFoxette75 Sat 04-Oct-25 23:34:25

I don’t believe those hostages are still alive