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Allsorts Sun 19-Oct-25 06:16:14

On this thread in particular, there are those who want to be almost aggressive to those that don't hold their views. It's a discussion thread, people have differing views.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 21-Oct-25 11:07:57

GN/MN do not delete posts due to someone disagreeing with them.

They delete post which are against guidelines, these guidelines are available for all to see.

No matter how many times this is pointed out CariadAgain you insist that they are πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

I would like to see your evidence to back up your claims that posts are deleted due to multiple reports by so called cliques

escaped Tue 21-Oct-25 11:10:26

A derailer then! Which apparently is disruptive? Though always courteous, and never tell posters what they can or can't say.

I just don't get what Daisy is saying about self characterisation on this thread?

Sorry for disrupting with a question on psychology that probably isn't relevant to this thread anyway!

escaped Tue 21-Oct-25 11:11:47

Reply was to Allira.
(I'm at home this week with poorly dog, and too much time to kill).

Allira Tue 21-Oct-25 11:13:48

I just don't get what Daisy is saying about self characterisation on this thread?

Me neither but it is interesting.

As I posted on a thread recently:
"O wad some Power the giftie gie us / To see oursels as ithers see us!".

But that goes for all posters of course.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 21-Oct-25 11:14:48

escaped

Reply was to Allira.
(I'm at home this week with poorly dog, and too much time to kill).

I am confined to home until the traffic clears, ( car accident ) has cleared and I can get on with my plans.

Consequently I am ironing bedding with iPad on beside be πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

Allira Tue 21-Oct-25 11:15:54

I'm home with a not well DGC asleep upstairs.

All confined to barracks, it seems!

escaped Tue 21-Oct-25 11:17:53

Consequently, I am ironing bedding with iPad on beside me
That's exactly how I do it, except with my phone. And that's why I make mistakes!

Allira Tue 21-Oct-25 11:20:12

I'm drinking coffee.

Blossoming Tue 21-Oct-25 11:47:42

Did anyone else think this was a thread was about grouchy Gransnet forum members?

Just me then blush grin

Maremia Tue 21-Oct-25 12:39:06

gringringrin

Caleo Tue 21-Oct-25 12:46:19

GrannyGravy13

GN/MN do not delete posts due to someone disagreeing with them.

They delete post which are against guidelines, these guidelines are available for all to see.

No matter how many times this is pointed out CariadAgain you insist that they are πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

I would like to see your evidence to back up your claims that posts are deleted due to multiple reports by so called cliques

Gransnet mods interpret guidelines more protectively than other chat room mods.

petra Tue 21-Oct-25 13:14:43

Allira

CariadAgain
I've never yet spotted a thread started or post made to deliberately create trouble.

I can't say the same for strange threads started, usually with American spellings, with very involved family stories.

I sometimes wonder if they are posted to try to get posters to reveal details about themselves. Best avoided.

It was one of those posts that got me suspended for a week because somebody who believed everything the BOT was posting was true when it was obvious to a blind man that it was tosh.
But I had the temerity πŸ˜‚ to call it out.
I now have a mental image of a dalec screaming Report Report Report. 😱

Oreo Tue 21-Oct-25 13:20:47

Caleo not always true.I was on a forum a few years ago that was much stricter on guidelines.
But if GN is more protective it’s probably a mix of being aware of being sued and realising that older people are often more vulnerable in many ways.Being bereaved, being in ill health and in some cases lonely.Having insults thrown at them or pile ons could be upsetting.
If posters stay calm with comments it’s better all round.

MaizieD Tue 21-Oct-25 14:58:23

How do you identify a BOT, pettra? (I'm assuming you are talking about the sort of posts produced by bot farms?)

Labradora Tue 21-Oct-25 15:20:19

For myself the political socio/political threads make me realise when I have a structured , coherent line of thought to present and when I am just blurting out a prejudice , which, sometimes, frankly, I am.
Things can get quite lively but one of the things that I do value about gransnet is robust thought and expression.
I wouldn't persevere in a vitriolic argument though. I tend to disengage if I get really angry.
If any of us realise that that we have really, genuinely upset someone, we should probably calm down and apologise.

CariadAgain Tue 21-Oct-25 16:48:48

Labradora

For myself the political socio/political threads make me realise when I have a structured , coherent line of thought to present and when I am just blurting out a prejudice , which, sometimes, frankly, I am.
Things can get quite lively but one of the things that I do value about gransnet is robust thought and expression.
I wouldn't persevere in a vitriolic argument though. I tend to disengage if I get really angry.
If any of us realise that that we have really, genuinely upset someone, we should probably calm down and apologise.

Sounds like a very fair sort of take to put on things imo.

I think it's fair enough to accept different people have different opinions and not try and wriggle and squirm to shut them up if theirs is different.

It's not a vicar's tea party - where everyone might decide to talk about totally non-personal opinions and it's all "More tea vicar?"

I think a lot of people like to be in an "echo chamber". Echo chambers have their uses - ie for realising one is far from the only one with a particular way of thinking. They were very useful for sure during Covid/Lockdown/et al - as a counterbalance to all the government instructions and propaganda and many of us needed what support we could get in such a hostile environment as that was for us and some of us experienced enormous amounts of pressure put on us one way or another.

By and large though generally it should be more "school debating society" - ie there's at least one other side to this and so what is it? and not just "agree with the vicar that you'd like another cup of tea".

Some people can't handle other people having different views to themselves - and might be better served finding a "one view only" sort of venue to be.

ferry23 Tue 21-Oct-25 17:39:52

This thread and threads where someone has been reported and had a post deleted are always interesting.

I always look out for the posters I nickname "Gertrude"

'The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

Queen Gertrude. Hamlet. Act 3. Scene 2.

They almost always pop up. wink

Allira Tue 21-Oct-25 17:42:12

Oh dear, Gran, your name is being taken in vain!

Mamie Tue 21-Oct-25 17:49:12

I try to be measured and polite, but I do sometimes remember the classic Mumsnet reply to outrageous posts.
"Are you on glue?"

Allira Tue 21-Oct-25 17:51:35

Mamie

I try to be measured and polite, but I do sometimes remember the classic Mumsnet reply to outrageous posts.
"Are you on glue?"

😁

Of course, that would probably be deleted on here as we have to behave with more decorum for some reason.

Why, I'll never know, we invented the Permissive Society and the Swinging Sixties!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 21-Oct-25 18:01:17

Allira the only swinging I did in the sixties was on a garden swing (late 50’s baby)

Galaxy Tue 21-Oct-25 18:03:13

I do get a bit antsy when people complain about MN/GN in terms if freedom of speech because under enormous pressure they provided a space for feminists to speak freely, when no one else did. They were threatened legally, had advertisers pulling their funding, etc, they have I am sure done more for 'freedom of speech' than most posters on here.

Allira Tue 21-Oct-25 22:43:24

GrannyGravy13

Allira the only swinging I did in the sixties was on a garden swing (late 50’s baby)

😁

Caleo Thu 23-Oct-25 15:57:17

Galaxy

I do get a bit antsy when people complain about MN/GN in terms if freedom of speech because under enormous pressure they provided a space for feminists to speak freely, when no one else did. They were threatened legally, had advertisers pulling their funding, etc, they have I am sure done more for 'freedom of speech' than most posters on here.

I quite understand that explanation. I thought there would be something of the sort going on . I hope your explanation will make people feel better.

Cossy Wed 29-Oct-25 17:53:54

escaped

^Boz I think posters do get told off if they introduce a degree of levity or do not approach subjects with sufficient gravity and depth of intellectual debate.^

Oops, yes, Allira, I probably have a yellow card already on this serious thread! Sorry. πŸ‰

Haha Never, ever, lose manners nor one’s sense of humour!