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Allsorts Sun 19-Oct-25 06:16:14

On this thread in particular, there are those who want to be almost aggressive to those that don't hold their views. It's a discussion thread, people have differing views.

Cossy Wed 29-Oct-25 17:55:03

Mamie

I try to be measured and polite, but I do sometimes remember the classic Mumsnet reply to outrageous posts.
"Are you on glue?"

That’s actually hilarious! grin

Allira Wed 29-Oct-25 17:58:53

Cossy

escaped

Boz I think posters do get told off if they introduce a degree of levity or do not approach subjects with sufficient gravity and depth of intellectual debate.

Oops, yes, Allira, I probably have a yellow card already on this serious thread! Sorry. 🏉

Haha Never, ever, lose manners nor one’s sense of humour!

At least it's not a 🟥

Doodledog Thu 30-Oct-25 08:55:38

I don't think it's anything to do with sufficient gravity and level of intellectual debate.

Many posters have commented on how it is annoying when threads are disrupted because a group of people have decided that they need to be 'lightened', regardless of whether others have had a chance to say their piece. A thread about politics or a serious news event suddenly has people talking amongst themselves about kittens, and those coming late to the topic are unable to get a word in edgeways. It is particularly galling when the chat pushes the thread to 1000 posts, at which point it closes, and posters are often open about the fact that this is their aim. It just rides roughshod over everyone else, as we all have a right to express our opinion (including about filibustering and private chats on public threads).

I appreciate that you disagree, escaped, and that you have a right to bring this up over and over again. But diverting threads into further discussions about what you see as the injustice of being called to account will not alter the fact that many do find it annoying, and nor will it stop me from responding, as it feels like a personal dig, based on the infamous 'green trouser suit' thread on which I did speak up about that sort of thing, although I did not report you.

There are often complaints about cliques, and how people can feel intimidated on threads as they know that if they offer their opinion it will be upcast forever. I now have a certain amount of sympathy with that POV grin. The trouser suit thread was 18 months ago!

escaped Thu 30-Oct-25 09:04:20

Moi?

Well that's me told! Especially after several posters last week commented on the welcome injections of humour brought into threads to stop them getting too nasty.
FWIW I know nothing about kittens? Maybe someone will enlighten us! 🐈 😻 🐈‍⬛️ 😺 🐱
The green trouser suit goes way beyond being an excuse for personal digs.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 30-Oct-25 09:12:41

Oh dear, sometimes a jovial(ish) post on a serious thread can diffuse a brewing pile on or another difficult situation.

I am guilty of the above, I am not in a clique 😼

eazybee Thu 30-Oct-25 09:16:16

If you look at the length of some of the posts you might understand why, Doodledog.

Maremia Thu 30-Oct-25 09:18:08

Yes, sometimes a wee, funny diversion, temporary of course, does reduce the heat.

Doodledog Thu 30-Oct-25 09:19:18

escaped

Moi?

Well that's me told! Especially after several posters last week commented on the welcome injections of humour brought into threads to stop them getting too nasty.
FWIW I know nothing about kittens? Maybe someone will enlighten us! 🐈 😻 🐈‍⬛️ 😺 🐱
The green trouser suit goes way beyond being an excuse for personal digs.

I agree. It was simply expressing an opinion, but you keep playing the martyr.

I hadn't even remembered that you were involved until you brought it up specifically on another thread. It's tedious.

The thing is, whilst you might see threads as 'getting nasty' you don't have the right to decide to change them like an unelected Head Girl. Other posters have a right to an opinion too, which is all I am saying.

Of course threads meander - it's inevitable, and there is nothing wrong with that if it's organic. It is different when a small group decides that they will impose 'lightening up', though.

Anyway, I am in danger of dragging this out too, so will leave it there - or at least until the next time it is mentioned grin

CariadAgain Thu 30-Oct-25 09:19:54

That's now raised my curiosity as to what went on in the "green trouser suit thread". Think it must have been before I started reading this forum.

Anyone got a link to it?

Guessing it was a serious discussion and somebody brought in a (totally irrelevant) green trouser suit and others started talking about trouser suits to derail the thread?

Maremia Thu 30-Oct-25 09:21:23

Missed that one too. Was it News and Politics? That's where I usually visit.

Doodledog Thu 30-Oct-25 09:22:29

No, rather the reverse, Cariad. I think the thread may have been deleted, but can't really see that anything would be gained by rehashing it all.

escaped Thu 30-Oct-25 09:22:56

Wow! Doodledog. Really?

escaped Thu 30-Oct-25 09:25:12

It's all in the open.

www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/1338034-Angela-Rayner-ghastly-trouser-suit?pg=6

Oreo Thu 30-Oct-25 09:30:41

Doodledog why feel the need to be so rude to escaped who has never written anything remotely so to another poster?
I really think the green trouser suit thread has left you seething for a very long time for no good reason at all.Everyone could and did have their say on that thread, regardless of any amusing posts on it, so your grudge seems very strange.
There are no cliques btw.
As the song goes…..Let It Go.

Oreo Thu 30-Oct-25 09:36:34

I did wonder at the time Doodledog if you were related to Angela Rayner.
Apart from a couple of early posts about Rayner’s character, which was very wrong, the rest were purely on the style of the trouser suit.
Late in the thread some posters including me ( as the thread had become boring, there’s only so much you can say about style) were amused by comments from others.
It annoyed you for some reason.

Cossy Thu 30-Oct-25 09:38:47

AGAA4

Colin from accounts was very cute. His acting was excellent.

I loved this show, it made me laugh out loud. I don’t find “Rachel from Accounts” in the least bit sexist, we have to hold onto our SoH in these dark times.

Allira Thu 30-Oct-25 09:40:12

Cossy

AGAA4

Colin from accounts was very cute. His acting was excellent.

I loved this show, it made me laugh out loud. I don’t find “Rachel from Accounts” in the least bit sexist, we have to hold onto our SoH in these dark times.

Especially as Colin was a male 😂
Loved Colin, he was very endearing.

Cossy Thu 30-Oct-25 09:40:51

GrannyGravy13

Oh dear, sometimes a jovial(ish) post on a serious thread can diffuse a brewing pile on or another difficult situation.

I am guilty of the above, I am not in a clique 😼

Me too! flowers

Oreo Thu 30-Oct-25 09:42:29

CariadAgain

That's now raised my curiosity as to what went on in the "green trouser suit thread". Think it must have been before I started reading this forum.

Anyone got a link to it?

Guessing it was a serious discussion and somebody brought in a (totally irrelevant) green trouser suit and others started talking about trouser suits to derail the thread?

Wrong!😁

Allira Thu 30-Oct-25 09:47:12

Doodledog I think your post to escaped is totally uncalled for. However, I hope it doesn't get reported, it should stay.

It's unlike you to make such nasty personal remarks. Nor does it become acceptable by adding a grin.

And as for escaped, she is always reasonable and I have never known her be unkind to others.

I'll await the accusations of clique but it is not. It's asking why?

Allira Thu 30-Oct-25 09:50:49

CariadAgain

That's now raised my curiosity as to what went on in the "green trouser suit thread". Think it must have been before I started reading this forum.

Anyone got a link to it?

Guessing it was a serious discussion and somebody brought in a (totally irrelevant) green trouser suit and others started talking about trouser suits to derail the thread?

Anyone got a link to it?
It's gone to the charity shop CariadAgain.

(Sorry, I'll get my knuckles rapped for a poor attempt at levity.)

Doodledog Thu 30-Oct-25 09:55:40

Allira

Doodledog I think your post to escaped is totally uncalled for. However, I hope it doesn't get reported, it should stay.

It's unlike you to make such nasty personal remarks. Nor does it become acceptable by adding a grin.

And as for escaped, she is always reasonable and I have never known her be unkind to others.

I'll await the accusations of clique but it is not. It's asking why?

Why is because I am sick of hearing about how hard done by escaped feels over that thread. It is not usually mentioned specifically, but the digs and comments about how she was 'told off' and get a yellow card for simply not being intellectually appropriate or whatever are passive aggressive and tiresome. Ion my opinion, to which I am as entitled as she is to make her point, and you are to call me out about expressing it.

Seriously, it comes up time and time again. I fully understand that escaped feels aggrieved about being suspended, and maybe she has a point (I don't know who reported her or over which post), but the constant rehashing of it under the radar is (again IMO) as uncalled for as (in your opinion) was my post.

Casdon Thu 30-Oct-25 09:55:56

CariadAgain

That's now raised my curiosity as to what went on in the "green trouser suit thread". Think it must have been before I started reading this forum.

Anyone got a link to it?

Guessing it was a serious discussion and somebody brought in a (totally irrelevant) green trouser suit and others started talking about trouser suits to derail the thread?

Here it is. I’ve been on Gransnet for nearly 10 years, this is the thread that sticks with me.
www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/1338034-Angela-Rayner-ghastly-trouser-suit

Allira Thu 30-Oct-25 10:00:39

Doodledog

Allira

Doodledog I think your post to escaped is totally uncalled for. However, I hope it doesn't get reported, it should stay.

It's unlike you to make such nasty personal remarks. Nor does it become acceptable by adding a grin.

And as for escaped, she is always reasonable and I have never known her be unkind to others.

I'll await the accusations of clique but it is not. It's asking why?

Why is because I am sick of hearing about how hard done by escaped feels over that thread. It is not usually mentioned specifically, but the digs and comments about how she was 'told off' and get a yellow card for simply not being intellectually appropriate or whatever are passive aggressive and tiresome. Ion my opinion, to which I am as entitled as she is to make her point, and you are to call me out about expressing it.

Seriously, it comes up time and time again. I fully understand that escaped feels aggrieved about being suspended, and maybe she has a point (I don't know who reported her or over which post), but the constant rehashing of it under the radar is (again IMO) as uncalled for as (in your opinion) was my post.

Can you not just skip past posts or threads which annoy you?

I do see that advice quite often on GN.

Doodledog Thu 30-Oct-25 10:06:37

|I could say the same to you grin. We all pick and choose what annoys us enough to reply to and what to skip past. You chose to reply to my post, just as I chose to reply to escaped's. What's the difference?