The BBC. Bias is one thing. Lies and manipulation of facts entirely different.

Do not judge by one incident..

It isn't one incident. The leaked information covers a range of issues.

Allsorts

Do not judge by one incident..

One incident.
There’s the post I put up in reference to the bbc lying about the Queen.
Jimmy Saville. They knew about the vile creature’s behaviour for years.
Gary Linekers tweet.
Not cutting the live feed at Glastonbury.
Hew Edwards. Known about for years within the BBC.
And let’s not forget their pieste du resistance: Martin Bashir.

Petra don’t forget the paedophile Jonathan King. Worked for the BBC and was grooming young boys for years using his “fame” to do so.

Don’t believe the pile on by lefties trying to defend the leftie BBC & arguing that it’s not got a left wing bias.

Yes. The desperate attempts by those on here that support the more extreme left wing to try to convince us that it was

all a mistake
quite accurate really
justified because of who it was
not the BBCs fault
a rare occurrence
a right wing plot
an American plot
(take your pick)

have only served to convince me that that the BBC as it stands is a vital part of their political strategy.

Where did you get that absurd graphic from, Mollygo?

MaizieD

Where did you get that absurd graphic from, Mollygo?

It look as if it may have come from "The Flying Frisby" Maizie.

This is run by Dominic Frisby who is a British comedian, Dominic Frisby is a British comedian, author and voice actor, known both for his satirical songs and his commentary on finance and economics. He has variously been described as, “mercurially witty”, having “a genius touch” and “all over the place”. In the UK, his best known song is "17 Million F* Offs".

Source: Wikipedia

(My sanitising *)

petra

Allsorts

Do not judge by one incident..

One incident.
There’s the post I put up in reference to the bbc lying about the Queen.
Jimmy Saville. They knew about the vile creature’s behaviour for years.
Gary Linekers tweet.
Not cutting the live feed at Glastonbury.
Hew Edwards. Known about for years within the BBC.
And let’s not forget their pieste du resistance: Martin Bashir.

There is a constant list of apologies from the BBC.

I suppose they do eventually apologise so that must be a positive.

More heads need to roll. There are most probably a lot more who need to be weeded out.

The new cohort needs show it has no political bias if it is to receive public funding.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLdy8-2PgP8

This gives you an idea (if you can bare to click) on how far to the right the attacks are coming from. Now I wonder why they would want to destroy a company that still trys to present both sides? Even if it does occasionally get things wrong.

I think Trump may have other things on his plate than the BBC. MAGA is after release of the Epstein Files. Lies about sexual abuse has wound them up in the past. Just think what finding truths might do!

Yes, there’s a load of incidents Allira going back a few years.

Our downfall, all our downfalls, is that we are human; aĺl of us! I don't think that's going to change.

I see we are getting disinformation about Universal Credit once again. Strange (or rather not strange) that none of the "disgusted of Gransnet" crowd haven't launched an attack on these sources.

Presumably the universal credit thing is also because we are all human then. It isn't possible to debate any concerns if that is the response. It will certainly be my response from now on when anyone complains about misinformation.

Any update yet on how many of the Epstein Files have been released?

How many apologies has The Telegra
ph had to make this year?
Compare that with the number by the BBC.
And then take into account enormous output from the BBC, compared with the dwindling number of readers of The Telegraph.

The perspective is in favour of the BBC

We own the BBC and so qe have control.
This conversation would never happen, about The Telegraph, over which we have no control.
Who does own The Telegraph?
British interests?
Foreign interests?

Maremia

How many apologies has The Telegra
ph had to make this year?
Compare that with the number by the BBC.
And then take into account enormous output from the BBC, compared with the dwindling number of readers of The Telegraph.

According to DeSmog, 10th November, The BBC has made 33 corrections to its coverage overall this year, compared with 114 corrections from The Telegraph.

”Looking to The Daily Telegraph as an arbiter of journalistic accuracy and ethics is like calling on the fox to give you advice on securing the hen house,” said Mic Wright, author of Breaking: How the Media Works, When it Doesn’t and Why it Matters.

“The paper’s attacks on the BBC are not remotely done in good faith and are the result of the publisher’s ideological and commercial interests. There is no world in which The Telegraph’s output would survive the level of scrutiny applied to the BBC’s journalism.

www.desmog.com/2025/11/10/the-telegraph-record-climate-falsehoods-bbc/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

It’s not clear from the article whether these are climate based ‘corrections’ or general untruths or misrepresentations.

I assume that our Telegraph readers are, like GB News watchers, far more tolerant of their favoured media’s errors than the are of the BBC?

The Telegraph was owned by the Barclay brothers (one of which is now dead, I think). Ownership currently is in the process of being transferred to US company

Galaxy

Presumably the universal credit thing is also because we are all human then. It isn't possible to debate any concerns if that is the response. It will certainly be my response from now on when anyone complains about misinformation.

But if they reprehend the BBC for misinformation then surely it is equally a "crime" when others do it Galaxy. What's good for the goose, etc. Equally, if you were not one of the "disgusted of Granset" then you may well be being even-handed.

Maremia

We own the BBC and so qe have control.
This conversation would never happen, about The Telegraph, over which we have no control.
Who does own The Telegraph?
British interests?
Foreign interests?

If you think the Court of Public Opinion holds no strength then why do people try to influence the outcome?

Newspapers have long considered themselves the "Forth Pillar of Democracy". Surely they can't make that claim and then ignore the electorate? Not if the part of the electorate that tears into the BBC are even-handed. Wouldn't that be a Christmas miracle!

MaizieD

Maremia

How many apologies has The Telegra
ph had to make this year?
Compare that with the number by the BBC.
And then take into account enormous output from the BBC, compared with the dwindling number of readers of The Telegraph.

According to DeSmog, 10th November, The BBC has made 33 corrections to its coverage overall this year, compared with 114 corrections from The Telegraph.

”Looking to The Daily Telegraph as an arbiter of journalistic accuracy and ethics is like calling on the fox to give you advice on securing the hen house,” said Mic Wright, author of Breaking: How the Media Works, When it Doesn’t and Why it Matters.

“The paper’s attacks on the BBC are not remotely done in good faith and are the result of the publisher’s ideological and commercial interests. There is no world in which The Telegraph’s output would survive the level of scrutiny applied to the BBC’s journalism.

www.desmog.com/2025/11/10/the-telegraph-record-climate-falsehoods-bbc/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

It’s not clear from the article whether these are climate based ‘corrections’ or general untruths or misrepresentations.

I assume that our Telegraph readers are, like GB News watchers, far more tolerant of their favoured media’s errors than the are of the BBC?

Good post.

The owners have been a very undesirable lot. Black was imprisoned and the Barclay Brothers had both Telegraph and spectator seized because they owed £1bn to their creditors,

The content today bears no relationship to that of years gone by and it is doubtful that it would pass the smell test of good journalism.

Foreign owners including Abu Dhabi snd USA company are now. In the final negotiation stage for ownership.

If you do this, 'it is all the right wings fault' then the BBC will go. This will in years to come be seen as the beginning of the end.
There appear to be a few people in the BBC who aren't doing the conspiracy theory thing so possibly there is hope.

The Telegraph seems to be the ooh look a squirrel on this thread.A newspaper isn’t comparable to the BBC.It isn’t the fault of the right wing it’s the fault of people working for the BBC in senior positions.

The truth though is hard to find. So exactly who did edit the film? Was it a BBC staff member or a member of October Productions? What sanctions were given to that person? Is that person still employed by the BBC or October Productions? What was the motivation for splicing the video tape? Hard evidence? Oreo
Then of course we need to ask how long Shah knew about this false edit. Best stay on point?