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Starmer welcoming someone

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fancythat Sun 28-Dec-25 11:51:03

I dont normally start a political thread but here goes.

I also know some people like debating, for debating sake I think.

So try this

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15416559/Starmer-backlash-return-UK-Egyptian-activist-kill-Zionists.html

Freya5 Tue 30-Dec-25 09:54:54

WithNobsOnIt

Well let us not forget Margeret Thatcher with General Pinochet. Horrible despotic little man

What was all that about?

Favours for friends?

Bit of whataboutry, been gone done. This is here and now. With the terrorist threat in this country alive and well, we do not need this vile creature adding too it. Needs to be back in prison for his hate speeches as Starmer has declared for others. Oh well last year as shadow whatever, he was, espousing disgust that this thing was in jail due to his social media posts. What a hypocrite and failure the pm is.

icanhandthemback Tue 30-Dec-25 12:28:42

Allira

icanhandthemback

eazybee

Alaa Abdel Fallah was not subjected to a normal examination when applying for British citizenship because he claimed it through his mother who was born in London while her mother was studying for a PHD, one of the loopholes apparently of the Human Rights Law. He also claimed to be a prisoner of conscience, hence the cross party support. The Conservatives granted him citizenship.
Since becoming PM Starmer has avidly supported his case and welcomed him into Britain without running basic checks on his background.
Abdel has 'apologised unreservedly for his offensive racist tweets.'
This was followed however by:
"I am shaken that, just as I am being reunited with my family for the first time in 12 years, several historic tweets of mine have been republished and used to question and attack my integrity and values, escalating to calls for the revocation of my citizenship." BBC website, today.
Integrity and values?
Gratitude?

I think that this is obviously a loophole which needs closing then!

Difficult one, icanhandthemback
His mother was born here when her parents were briefly here as students therefore she has dual nationality but she was brought up up Egypt where she became a professor at Cairo University and a political activist.

It would seem to be a tenuous reason for granting her son UK citizenship but, presumably, lawful.
This was changed in 1983 ^The requirement for a person to have a parent who is a British citizen by birth in the UK for automatic citizenship came into effect on January 1, 1983, with the implementation of the British Nationality Act 1981.^

It is a difficult one but I am sure where there is a will, there is a way. I'm not suggesting for one minute that people born here are denied citizenship but I do think when you haven't actually lived here, there should be due diligence before citizenship is granted. I also think there is an argument that young people often have different political views from their older selves but calling for the death of Jews, white people and blowing up Downing Street are more extreme than most.