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Woman shot and killed by ICE officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota

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Syracute Thu 08-Jan-26 10:27:26

Yesterday there was a very tragic shooting of a woman leaving the scene of an Immigration raid/incident . The video clips are very disturbing as she is shot and killed by an officer after she was given conflicting information by two officers . One who told her to leave and another who told her to get out of the car.
She was killed by a third officer who was to the side of the car . I can only advise you not to watch the clip if you feel it might be disturbing . I was able to read a good account of it in the NYT and it definitely looks and reads like she was murdered.
She was a white, US citizen not a target of the raid.

I truly feel like the USA is imploding from the inside out and that Trump is creating fires of danger everywhere.

imaround Mon 19-Jan-26 18:45:29

How these ICE things are treating people in Minneapolis (and all over the country).

www.kwtx.com/2026/01/18/ice-officer-seen-kneeing-detained-man-head/

imaround Mon 19-Jan-26 18:45:41

*thugs not things

Maremia Mon 19-Jan-26 18:54:06

Thanks Wyllow.

LemonJam Mon 19-Jan-26 18:54:24

Starfire 06.40: Good point. If protesters continue to harass and obstruct, which btw obstruction isn't just un peaceful, it's against the law, then it's not peaceful and this order means nothing, really".

Lemonjam- I respectfully disagree- the injunction order, disseminated to all federal agents in Operation Surge Metro in Minnesota means they must obey and comply. The 83 page court judges determination also sets out what protestors can do when they are exercising their First amendment protest rights thereby not breaking the law.

Starfire57 Mon 19-Jan-26 05:23:49: "The state cannot override the feds. The agents must do their job, as necessary. If someone is blocking their car, they can move that person. If someone attacks them, they can defend themselves, arrest them, order or no order"

The order means a lot more than "nothing really" Starfire - it was in fact issued by a Federal Court, not the "state", i.e the Federal Court issued an injunction to ICE and Covered Federal Agents- "Minnesota Court Injunction order issued to ICE- Covered Federal Agents 16/1/2"- link posted by imaround 17/1/26 at 02.34.

Maremia Mon 19-Jan-26 18:55:52

Thanks imaround. I didn't think that his reasons were legal. That means he is acting beyond his legal powers , and that means he is acting like a dictator.

Starfire57 Tue 20-Jan-26 00:27:57

Wyllow3

here is 3 minutes of Bernie Saunders talking about the event and its wider significance. a "must watch"?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Z_RdZOYrE

Used to really like Bernie. But, he is a career politician and they often switch gears to suit the agenda. Here's a great example I found when he was talking a few years back.

x.com/i/status/2011514289627283567

Starfire57 Tue 20-Jan-26 00:31:06

LemonJam

Starfire 06.40: Good point. If protesters continue to harass and obstruct, which btw obstruction isn't just un peaceful, it's against the law, then it's not peaceful and this order means nothing, really".

Lemonjam- I respectfully disagree- the injunction order, disseminated to all federal agents in Operation Surge Metro in Minnesota means they must obey and comply. The 83 page court judges determination also sets out what protestors can do when they are exercising their First amendment protest rights thereby not breaking the law.

Starfire57 Mon 19-Jan-26 05:23:49: "The state cannot override the feds. The agents must do their job, as necessary. If someone is blocking their car, they can move that person. If someone attacks them, they can defend themselves, arrest them, order or no order"

The order means a lot more than "nothing really" Starfire - it was in fact issued by a Federal Court, not the "state", i.e the Federal Court issued an injunction to ICE and Covered Federal Agents- "Minnesota Court Injunction order issued to ICE- Covered Federal Agents 16/1/2"- link posted by imaround 17/1/26 at 02.34.

I have discovered the article I read clearly misquoted the judge being a state judge. However, still, the order means nothing if the protesters are not protesting peacefully and are obstructing.

imaround Tue 20-Jan-26 04:55:32

I can't not post this today, on MLK day here in the US. Especially with what is happening in Minnesota.

youtube.com/shorts/0hWykRZGoXE?si=fwV2sfA7Ut88nA5-

LemonJam Tue 20-Jan-26 09:04:18

Stafire 00. .31 "I have discovered the article I read clearly misquoted the judge being a state judge. However, still, the order means nothing if the protesters are not protesting peacefully and are obstructing"

Thanks for explaining you read a mis quoted articles and that formed your opinion. However the link on Gransnet told us on the first page of the court document that this was a Federal case in a Federal Court and the defendants were Federal organisations and federal officers including ICE.

Therefore ICE officers in Minnesota must comply with the order, act within the law and can be sued as non compliant with this order if not. They need to secure evidence to prove they are acting within the law in cases where protestors may take legal action against DHS / any individual ICE officer to defend their actions therefore.

For example- in this case the defence put forward by the Dept Homeland Security/ICE was that ICE officers: stopped/arrested/pepper sprayed / pointed firearms at etc the various protesters because they were "protesting violently" and the officers had a reasonable suspicion that they had "probable cause" to do so under 18 USC section 111 as it is a crime to "forcibly assault, resist, impede or intimidate or interfere with a Federal Officer engaged in the performance of their duties".

However ICE provided no evidence to support their allegations against the protesters. There was no evidence put forward that they were protesting violently within the definition of the law. The judge found the ICE officers allegations were contradicted by evidence available including video evidence. There was no evidence that any officers had been "forcibly assaulted, intimidated, interfered with etc" by the protestors

Regarding Renee Good's fatal shooting, I have seen no evidence that she "forcibly assaulted, interfered with, intimidated" etc ICE officers such that they had a reasonable belief that she was committing a crime under 18 USC section 111 law, such that it was reasonable to shoot her directly at close range.

The investigation report, if made available to the public, will prove interesting reading.

LemonJam Tue 20-Jan-26 09:09:16

imaround 04.55 - thanks for posting. MLK powerful words.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Jan-26 09:16:29

imaround

I can't not post this today, on MLK day here in the US. Especially with what is happening in Minnesota.

youtube.com/shorts/0hWykRZGoXE?si=fwV2sfA7Ut88nA5-

😢. And yet I am filled with admiration.

He spoke as if he knew his days were limited?

westendgirl Tue 20-Jan-26 09:50:38

A wonderful speech delivered by an amazing,inspirational man.

Perhaps Trump should look, study and learn how to move not only the audience but the world by heartfelt oratory. Does he not realise that instead of making America great again in the eyes of the world he is doing the exact opposite.

Maremia Tue 20-Jan-26 11:14:14

Trump is lost in his own mind. He will not learn, he will not get better.
Dementia is sadly, at the moment, a one way journey.

Allira Tue 20-Jan-26 11:19:41

Perhaps Trump should look, study and learn how to move not only the audience but the world by heartfelt oratory

He is not an orator, he is not inspiring and he's just not intelligent enough to string a coherent sentence together. So no, he will not be able to learn.

In fact, being an inspiring orator is not something people could learn even if they are highly intelligent.

Beans12 Tue 20-Jan-26 11:51:07

Absolutely horrific and totally unwarranted-Trump and his lackies are evil. No other word for them.

Oreo Tue 20-Jan-26 11:59:21

Lemonjam I think you will find that driving off so close to someone does make a case ( in US law) for the ICE officer to say that he was intimidated.
It isn’t our law or our way of doing things but that isn’t relevant to the case.

Maremia Tue 20-Jan-26 12:24:41

Intimidated, is that now a legal reason to shoot someone?
If that 'intimidates' him, he is in the wrong job.

imaround Tue 20-Jan-26 17:31:19

"The Trump administration has justified its ongoing immigration crackdown in Minnesota by citing a need to curb fraud and pointing to a widening scandal involving members of the Somali American community. Yet prosecutors say the mastermind of the state's biggest fraud scheme to date was not Somali but a White woman — 45-year-old Aimee Bock.

In an exclusive interview from her jail cell, Bock defended her conduct, admitted regrets and argued that state officials who she worked with should bear some of the blame. It was the first time Bock spoke publicly since she was arrested for her role in what prosecutors say was a $250 million COVID-era effort to defraud a federal program to feed hungry children."

www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mastermind-minnesotas-biggest-fraud-scheme-125119343.html

LemonJam Tue 20-Jan-26 18:14:54

Quote Maremia Tue 20-Jan-26 12:24:41
"Intimidated, is that now a legal reason to shoot someone?
If that 'intimidates' him, he is in the wrong job".

I agree with you Maremia. 18 USC section 111 law, gives the ICE officers powers to stop and arrest if they have a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed under that law. It does not give ICE jurisdiction or a licence to kill and fatally shoot at close range.

Starfire57 Wed 21-Jan-26 05:35:03

LemonJam

Stafire 00. .31 "I have discovered the article I read clearly misquoted the judge being a state judge. However, still, the order means nothing if the protesters are not protesting peacefully and are obstructing"

Thanks for explaining you read a mis quoted articles and that formed your opinion. However the link on Gransnet told us on the first page of the court document that this was a Federal case in a Federal Court and the defendants were Federal organisations and federal officers including ICE.

Therefore ICE officers in Minnesota must comply with the order, act within the law and can be sued as non compliant with this order if not. They need to secure evidence to prove they are acting within the law in cases where protestors may take legal action against DHS / any individual ICE officer to defend their actions therefore.

For example- in this case the defence put forward by the Dept Homeland Security/ICE was that ICE officers: stopped/arrested/pepper sprayed / pointed firearms at etc the various protesters because they were "protesting violently" and the officers had a reasonable suspicion that they had "probable cause" to do so under 18 USC section 111 as it is a crime to "forcibly assault, resist, impede or intimidate or interfere with a Federal Officer engaged in the performance of their duties".

However ICE provided no evidence to support their allegations against the protesters. There was no evidence put forward that they were protesting violently within the definition of the law. The judge found the ICE officers allegations were contradicted by evidence available including video evidence. There was no evidence that any officers had been "forcibly assaulted, intimidated, interfered with etc" by the protestors

Regarding Renee Good's fatal shooting, I have seen no evidence that she "forcibly assaulted, interfered with, intimidated" etc ICE officers such that they had a reasonable belief that she was committing a crime under 18 USC section 111 law, such that it was reasonable to shoot her directly at close range.

The investigation report, if made available to the public, will prove interesting reading.

No matter WHAT article I read, it still literally means nothing. As long as these protesters continue to block the street so officers cannot get to their targets, as long as they throw things, physically try to impede, attack, or take over in areas of operations, then they WILL be arrested for obstruction.

The order simply stated the obvious, non violent, non obstructive peaceful protesters will not be harmed or bothered with. as the ones that have been so far were actively trying to obstruct and intimidate.

This was already their orders, for god sakes; the judge was engaging in political theater and everyone thinks that's going to stop the deportations and arrests for obstruction.....it's not.

Not at all.

If the protesters get emboldened by the order, which they might, then Trump will invoke insurrection and then that will be a done deal.

Starfire57 Wed 21-Jan-26 05:39:15

Then it's going to be a terrible mess because of those morons thinking every deportation was of a sweet old grandpa or dad. So many already caught had warrants out for child molestation and a few had homicides. They ignored deportation orders for years, now hell has come to pay.

I hope this does not end with more lives lost if it becomes a huge mess.

Starfire57 Wed 21-Jan-26 05:43:13

imaround

"The Trump administration has justified its ongoing immigration crackdown in Minnesota by citing a need to curb fraud and pointing to a widening scandal involving members of the Somali American community. Yet prosecutors say the mastermind of the state's biggest fraud scheme to date was not Somali but a White woman — 45-year-old Aimee Bock.

In an exclusive interview from her jail cell, Bock defended her conduct, admitted regrets and argued that state officials who she worked with should bear some of the blame. It was the first time Bock spoke publicly since she was arrested for her role in what prosecutors say was a $250 million COVID-era effort to defraud a federal program to feed hungry children."

www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mastermind-minnesotas-biggest-fraud-scheme-125119343.html

You are literally saying then, the white woman who btw didn't get away with anything and is in jail, justifies letting Somali's continue to defraud, steal and continue illegally being in the country?

It's mind boggling the "whataboutisms" used to justify what the rest of the criminals are doing. I guess white women are the only ones who should pay for their crimes then.

imaround Wed 21-Jan-26 06:30:19

That is not at all what I am saying. Hope that helps.

Maremia Wed 21-Jan-26 07:31:41

I wonder if Trump will now 'pardon' her? He has form for that

Starfire57 Wed 21-Jan-26 08:14:38

imaround

That is not at all what I am saying. Hope that helps.

Sure sounded like it. My bad.