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Yesterday there was a very tragic shooting of a woman leaving the scene of an Immigration raid/incident . The video clips are very disturbing as she is shot and killed by an officer after she was given conflicting information by two officers . One who told her to leave and another who told her to get out of the car.
She was killed by a third officer who was to the side of the car . I can only advise you not to watch the clip if you feel it might be disturbing . I was able to read a good account of it in the NYT and it definitely looks and reads like she was murdered.
She was a white, US citizen not a target of the raid.
I truly feel like the USA is imploding from the inside out and that Trump is creating fires of danger everywhere.
LemonJam
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BREAKING: National Youth Poet Laureate Amanda Gorman pens a moving poem in the wake of the tragic ICE killing of innocent Minneapolis mother Renée Good.
Gorman is perhaps best known for writing and delivering her poem "The Hill We Climb" at President Joe Biden's inauguration. Now, her words come to us as our country is torn apart by MAGA fascism...
"For Renee Nicole Good Killed by I.C.E. on January 7, 2026."
by Amanda Gorman
They say she is no more,
That there her absence roars,
Blood-blown like a rose.
Iced wheels flinched & froze.
Now, bare riot of candles,
Dark fury of flowers,
Pure howling of hymns.
If for us she arose,
Somewhere, in the pitched deep of our grief,
Crouches our power,
The howl where we begin,
Straining upon the edge of the crooked crater
Of the worst of what we’ve been.
Change is only possible,
& all the greater,
When the labour
& bitter anger of our neighbors
Is moved by the love
& better angels of our nature.
What they call death & void,
We know is breath & voice;
In the end, gorgeously,
Endures our enormity.
You could believe departed to be the dawn
When the blank night has so long stood.
But our bright-fled angels will never be fully gone,
When they forever are so fiercely Good.
Please like and share!
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We cancelled our October cruise, leaving from Florida and going through the Panama Canal, partly through ethical reasons and tbh partly through fear. This dreadful incident assures me that we were right.
I’ve watched three videos of this incident and I saw her pointing the car at the ice officer and appearing to accelerate towards him. Just goes to show how we all see things differently, it does seem that those who hate Trump see one thing and his supporters see another.
Oreo, before you start labelling a comment as "silly", you need to see the films (on all channels) which CLEARLY show that the poor woman, who has been a regular documenter of folk being needlessly harassed by ICE 'gestapo', was no threat, and far from driving at an official, he had to go TO the car to shoot her at close range, several times.
There is also a mountain of evidence, from Chump's reign, of all manner of minorities being illegally targeted, this is due to him being a complete racist (look up his record with employed minorities in casinos?). Maybe reference his 2019 attack on the 'gang of 4' (Democrat congresswomen of colour) telling them to "go back and fix your **hole countries" -- some irony as 3 of them were born in the States (& therefore more right to be there than the now-estranged Melania!).
As for "immigrants coming from Latin America", yes, lots of them in the States, the vast majority are QUITE LEGAL. This is due to the situation, now dating back for many decades (to the 60s perhaps?), of Americans not wanting to do the lousy, dirty, low-paid jobs at the bottom of their huge economy, hence the surge of such people to fill those gaps. If racists like Chump and Farage had their way, and all brown-skinned people "went home", the health services here and there would collapse in an instant, which would brutally affect most of their similarly racist supporters, some irony?
Chump isn't just a racist, sexist liar, fraud and political opportunist, he's also a total hypocrite (though I doubt his limited education would know the word). In his first electoral campaign, he was banging on about that famous wall (& how Mexico would pay -- how did THAT go?!) whilst labelling most Mexicans as "rapists" -- but his winery interests were trying to recruit MORE cheap Mexican labour for those estates!
Syracute
Yesterday there was a very tragic shooting of a woman leaving the scene of an Immigration raid/incident . The video clips are very disturbing as she is shot and killed by an officer after she was given conflicting information by two officers . One who told her to leave and another who told her to get out of the car.
She was killed by a third officer who was to the side of the car . I can only advise you not to watch the clip if you feel it might be disturbing . I was able to read a good account of it in the NYT and it definitely looks and reads like she was murdered.
She was a white, US citizen not a target of the raid.
I truly feel like the USA is imploding from the inside out and that Trump is creating fires of danger everywhere.
I interpreted it as they tried several means to get her to leave her car, Shen drove over an agent.
Syracute
BREAKING: National Youth Poet Laureate Amanda Gorman pens a moving poem in the wake of the tragic ICE killing of innocent Minneapolis mother Renée Good.
Gorman is perhaps best known for writing and delivering her poem "The Hill We Climb" at President Joe Biden's inauguration. Now, her words come to us as our country is torn apart by MAGA fascism...
"For Renee Nicole Good Killed by I.C.E. on January 7, 2026."
by Amanda Gorman
They say she is no more,
That there her absence roars,
Blood-blown like a rose.
Iced wheels flinched & froze.
Now, bare riot of candles,
Dark fury of flowers,
Pure howling of hymns.
If for us she arose,
Somewhere, in the pitched deep of our grief,
Crouches our power,
The howl where we begin,
Straining upon the edge of the crooked crater
Of the worst of what we’ve been.
Change is only possible,
& all the greater,
When the labour
& bitter anger of our neighbors
Is moved by the love
& better angels of our nature.
What they call death & void,
We know is breath & voice;
In the end, gorgeously,
Endures our enormity.
You could believe departed to be the dawn
When the blank night has so long stood.
But our bright-fled angels will never be fully gone,
When they forever are so fiercely Good.
Please like and share!
So moving.
RIP Renee Nicole Good
🙏🏾🙏🏾
Menopauselbitch, she did not drive over anyone.
If you are driven over by a car, you are very seriously injured, or dead. No ICE agent was damaged during this event.
I understand she had just left her child to school.
Menopauselbitch
Syracute
Yesterday there was a very tragic shooting of a woman leaving the scene of an Immigration raid/incident . The video clips are very disturbing as she is shot and killed by an officer after she was given conflicting information by two officers . One who told her to leave and another who told her to get out of the car.
She was killed by a third officer who was to the side of the car . I can only advise you not to watch the clip if you feel it might be disturbing . I was able to read a good account of it in the NYT and it definitely looks and reads like she was murdered.
She was a white, US citizen not a target of the raid.
I truly feel like the USA is imploding from the inside out and that Trump is creating fires of danger everywhere.I interpreted it as they tried several means to get her to leave her car, Shen drove over an agent.
That is patently untrue but it is what Trump and ICE want you to believe.
Knittypamela
God forbid if she'd been black there would have been riots.
There are many protests . The one where she lives had 1000s of people. There have been many more all over the USA. People are fed up with the ICE thug tactics. They will not rest until there is justice for Renee.
Whitewavemark2 - totally agree. The body language of the shooter is pretty revealing too. He holsters his gun & walks towards the dead woman as though out for a casual stroll.
The lady who was murdered was monitoring ICE activities in her neighbourhood. She had been doing this for some time, not just on this day. She was unarmed so posed no threat to said officers! She was waving cars on to go past her. How anybody on this forum can justify her being shot 3 times at close range by a masked man is beyond my comprehension as a female. Shame on anybody on here who can justify this crime against a fellow human being. Shame on anybody who accepts the views of Trump and the ever obnoxious Vance as being acceptable . This is how it all began with SS, Gestapo and the nazi party. The US seems to, to me, to be a thoroughly unpleasant place at the moment but all credit to those who are challenging and fighting back. I never thought I would observe this behaviour in the US .
Definitely murder ..
The Ice thug should be imprisoned for life .. It was also taped on video ..
Terribly cruelty and sadistic on part of this Thug ..
DrWatson I agree with all you say about Trump.The comment to me was silly and I stand by that.Also you have only got to read the many interpretations of the event on this one thread to realise that unless you were there staring into the car then you can’t truly know what and why things occurred as they did.
SaxonGrace
I’ve watched three videos of this incident and I saw her pointing the car at the ice officer and appearing to accelerate towards him. Just goes to show how we all see things differently, it does seem that those who hate Trump see one thing and his supporters see another.
Those videos are AI generated, and only appeared once the stills and videos of the actual incident had been seen. Whether Trump knows or cares that the videos he may have seen are fake, he does enjoy a bit of violence, confirmed by his enjoyment of the live feed of the kidnap of Maduro. No ICE agent was injured, it's all a total lie.
Susieq62
The lady who was murdered was monitoring ICE activities in her neighbourhood. She had been doing this for some time, not just on this day. She was unarmed so posed no threat to said officers! She was waving cars on to go past her. How anybody on this forum can justify her being shot 3 times at close range by a masked man is beyond my comprehension as a female. Shame on anybody on here who can justify this crime against a fellow human being. Shame on anybody who accepts the views of Trump and the ever obnoxious Vance as being acceptable . This is how it all began with SS, Gestapo and the nazi party. The US seems to, to me, to be a thoroughly unpleasant place at the moment but all credit to those who are challenging and fighting back. I never thought I would observe this behaviour in the US .
I haven’t seen a single post on here that justifies her being shot ,
So be prepared to point it out?
Nothing justifies a person being killed by the authorities unless they pose a real risk of injuring others around them, and that’s what we abide by here in the UK.
The US is quite different, have you seen the figures there for the police shooting people? Even when they are running away in many cases.If you even look like threatening police or immigration officers or anyone else armed and in authority you can be shot.
I don’t think citizens there should be fighting back, challenging, yes if they want to but not taking an active part in any kind of obstruction, it’s too dangerous.
Knittypamela
God forbid if she'd been black there would have been riots.
What does that mean?
imaround I don’t mean to denigrate the US, it’s your country and our best ally, but am just pointing out that things are done differently here and mostly without lethal weapons.
The USA is a shit show right now, so no offense taken.
And yes, we do things much differently. I remember in my Criminal Justice classes in college we learned about the UK system of policing. I was always so surprised at the difference! I was young and naive back then
Of course a discussion like this will bring about a discussion of the differences!
Oreo there are many ways to fight back !!
I’m afraid Oreo that it is attitudes like ‘let them get on with it’ that leads to a country going past the point of no return. Protest should and must be allowed.
In this country the government are making this more and more difficult but thankfully the Police dot have guns.
The woman was observing. She wasn’t even on the street.
To say they should be unimpeded in rounding up people shows a lack of empathy. I fear that because that is how Reform talk.
We are citizens of the World and if I was in the US I would hope I’d be brave and observe/ protest.
Collusion with Trump is Starmer’s worst failing and it will be worse if Reform get in more
Susieq62
Oreo there are many ways to fight back !!
Yes, if it can be done without direct confrontation.
It isn’t our fight frogoet
If it was then I would be agreeing with you.
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