US troops forced to act on the ground?

Smileless2012

TBH I don't think we need history to show us that WW; it's obvious isn't it.

Yes I agree. But when the “books” are opened in future years it will all be confirmed what many suspect at present.

Agree with AGAA4.

Personally, if Trump's ego needs to say that the US won, I dont think I will mind on this occasion.
If that is what is needed to get peace.

Is this going to be another war that is just going to drag on and on?
More troops and civilians killed, more destruction, more lives ruined.

I fear it will be Magenta unless someone in America can bring Trump into line.

fancythat

Agree with AGAA4.

Personally, if Trump's ego needs to say that the US won, I dont think I will mind on this occasion.
If that is what is needed to get peace.

Iran have no need to let him come out of this war smelling of roses.
They hold all the cards.

While this war is making Trump and his inner circle loads of money he won't be in too much of a hurry to stop it. May be more difficult now as the insider trading is being called out in the US.
They are utterly despicable people knowing what this war is doing to their own people and others around the world but as long as they make far more money than anyone could possibly need the suffering of others will get scant regard.

Whitewavemark2

A peace plan is what will open the straits without loss of life. The issue is Netanyahu who is continually de-stabilising the area.

That absolutely has to be the bottom line!

A peace plan with no further loss of lives! 🙏🙏🙏

However, I do have to ask the question, where is Netanyahu and the Israeli troops in all of this?

Hopefully we will see the end of Netanyahu in the October elections. It is in his own interests to keep wars going to save him from prison.

Oreo

They won’t be on the ground, it’s all happening at sea, and yes someone will have to help the stranded ships so if the US will do it so much the better.
Iran is all bluster usually but if they do attack US military ships then they’ll very soon regret it.

For a lay person ( I presume) You seem to have an enviable amount of knowledge on warfare and world politics.

I would say Oreo shows rather more common sense than some of the posters on here:
Trump started it; Netanyahu told him to; ... when the “books” are opened in future years it will all be confirmed what many suspect at present.
I have no idea how this conflict will end, and I would not presume to guess, but I do know I would not trust Iran at all.

Recent events as reported by CBC news this morning:

1) Trump received Iran's latest 14 point peace proposal.
2) Trump has now announced his plan, 'project Freedom" for the American military to "guide" commercial ships through the narrow waterway.
3) The US military says 15,000 'forces' and more than 100 aircraft are involved in the effort called "Project Freedom".
4) In response Iran has threatened to attack any vessel that tries to transit the Strait of Hormuz without permission form Iran's military
5 Trump has said over the weekend that he's likely reject the Iran peace proposal as "they have not paid a big enough price".

Your guess is as good as mine what specifically Trump/US 15,000 forces and 100 aircraft will actually do to "guide" commercial vessels currently stuck in the Hormuz blockade, not allowed to leave without Iran's permission, but it doesn't sound peaceful. Iran has responded along the lines that it will retaliate in any US or Israeli attack.

Mr Trump has posted a picture of himself holding a handful of cards from the game Uno, with the tagline " I hold all the cards"
The winner of this game is the person with no cards.

Project Freedom?

🤷🏼

Pull the other one.

Mockery of the word, ‘freedom’

easybee I would not trust Iran at all. I agree.

I don't trust Trump either. He has proved himself to be deranged and delusional many times over.

He doesn’t know what day it is, never mind making decisions about his war.
edition.cnn.com/2026/05/03/politics/trump-iran-comment-fact-check

Isn't that part of the problem? Neither side is trustworthy.

I love the way the Iranians are mocking him. Soooo clever.
www.facebook.com/malloy.rocks3/videos/1770877210365274/?idorvanity=389797698300000

If the Iranian regime read Gransnet , doubtful I know, they would be very heartened by the supportive remarks for them.
This is the regime that murdered 36, 000 of its own citizens in just a few days in January.

eazybee

I would say Oreo shows rather more common sense than some of the posters on here:
Trump started it; Netanyahu told him to; ... when the “books” are opened in future years it will all be confirmed what many suspect at present.
I have no idea how this conflict will end, and I would not presume to guess, but I do know I would not trust Iran at all.

I don’t doubt many of us wouldn’t trust Iran officials, but we probably wouldn’t trust Trump, Netanyahu or Putin either.

It’s a fact that Trump and Netanyahu started this latest conflict, it’s a fact that the strait situation has to be resolved and quickly, it’s a fact that some people are making vast amount of money from this conflict.

Perhaps Oreo does have some additional insight into military matters than some of us, however some of us on here might not appreciated her latest comment below, in fact, I find it disgusting!

*Oreo

If the Iranian regime read Gransnet , doubtful I know, they would be very heartened by the supportive remarks for them.
This is the regime that murdered 36, 000 of its own citizens in just a few days in January.*

Why?

Look at Petra’s comment above.

Maremia

Isn't that part of the problem? Neither side is trustworthy.

It is indeed! A huge part of the problem.
One of the other issues is that one on side we have an awful vicious regime, some say worse now it’s a new leader, on the other side we have an ignorant moron who thinks all that matters is that he wins, he’s too much of an idiot to realise war has no winners!

Oreo

Look at Petra’s comment above.

The vast majority of people on Gransnet certainly do not support the Iranian regime!

Wyllow3

Project Freedom?

🤷🏼

Pull the other one.

Mockery of the word, ‘freedom’

And what about this?
There are 20,000 sailors and 2,000 ships stuck in the Strait and running low on food and clean water and it’s affecting their MH not knowing if Iran is going to fire on them.
This dreadful state of affairs has to end.