A new definition of what constitutes British

It is a badly thought-out idea, but this is the sort of thing that gives me pause when ID cards are mooted. People say 'if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear' etc, but it's not a huge leap to understand that people with nothing to hide about having 'non-British' parents could find that they have something to fear if a future government (eg Restore) decides to repatriate the new 'foreigners'. It's clear that many Gransnetters and their families would be in the firing line - something that would have been inconceivable ten years ago.

The similar policy didn't bode well when implemented in Germany and will not bode well for the UK if implemented here- no matter what differences and similarities of political and economic situations.

Doodledog. And that's why I keep urging people not to divulge too much about themselves on social media including this platform.

Reform UK are building a massive database of information about people and refusing to say exactly what they hold. It's why the Good Law Project are pursuing them through the High Court:

Reform has also used a powerful software tool called NationBuilder. That tool can be used to do something called micro-targeting, by scraping social media and commercial databases and building deep profiles of voters. Companies can stalk your internet existence – your Facebook posts, your shopping, your YouTube habit – and then use all that information to stoke division and hate.

goodlawproject.org/update/farages-reform-is-collecting-your-data-heres-why/

Latest:

goodlawproject.org/high-court-rejects-reforms-bid-to-throw-out-our-challenge/

None of my children are ok then as their father was born in India!

My dd2 was born in Abu Dhabi. TBH she’s unlikely to have children (has often said she’d rather have a 🐶) but presumably if she ever did, they’d be denied citizenship.

Both parents, plus yourself, must have seen every Ealing Comedy ever made, but especially any which star Sir Alec Guinness.

It may not replicate the past, MR, but it certainly resonates, doesn't it?

He’d never get away with it in a million years. Just silly. Makes you wonder about his sanity really.

Maremia

It may not replicate the past, MR, but it certainly resonates, doesn't it?

Does it?
Silly posturing and shot down from all sides.
Pity Hitler didn’t meet with the same reaction - that’s one of the BIG differences between the two nations .

Oh dear that excludes all my children then, shame really one just worked 40 years in the NHS

Makes you laugh a few short years ago when the dreaded Brexit happened everyone was clamouring to get Irish passports from long lost grandparents so they could still own a European passport 🤣🤣🤣

Even worse not one of my 7 grandkids was born in Britain
🤣🤣🤣but the ones still here pay taxes and work hard

Sorry Nana8 you say Restore make Reform look like a bunch of lefties. They are the real racists, not Reform.
Nana8 they are two sides of exactly the same coin

MawsRosie

Maremia

It may not replicate the past, MR, but it certainly resonates, doesn't it?

Does it?
Silly posturing and shot down from all sides.
Pity Hitler didn’t meet with the same reaction - that’s one of the BIG differences between the two nations .

Hitler did meet with strong opposition. He wasn't greeted with universal enthusiasm. Before taking power, he was opposed by political parties across Germany, trade unions, many newspapers, intellectuals, religious figures, and millions of ordinary voters. After he became dictator in 1933, open opposition became far less visible because opponents were arrested, imprisoned, exiled, or killed. The lack of public resistance after that reflected the reality of a totalitarian police state, not widespread agreement.

In Germany's last free election (November 1932), the Nazi Party received about 33% of the vote—not a majority. Most Germans voted for other parties. Hitler became Chancellor through political bargaining, not because the entire country demanded him. After taking power, the Nazis outlawed other political parties, censored the press, and used organizations like the Gestapo to suppress dissent. There were genuine resistance movements, including the White Rose students, the July 20 plotters, many church leaders, communists, social democrats, and countless individuals who paid with imprisonment or their lives.

Opposition didn't disappear because everyone agreed with Hitler; it became extraordinarily dangerous! And yet you paint us a superior nation!

DAR

Yes

Oh dear! That’s our children f***

Father, my DH born in Ireland, still only holds Irish passport, Mother, me, born in Singapore, with Canadian born biological father!

Shall we pack our bags now??

Guess it doesn’t count that we both moved to the UK prior to Primary School, that our parents worked and paid taxes, that we worked and paid taxes?

Mind you, we are all “white”….😱😱

0/10 for stupid idea, must try harder!
10/10 for racist idiocy!

Not necessarily. British nationality rules are much more complicated than that, and a lot depends on when and where the person was born and the parents’ citizenship or immigration status at the time.

In some cases, having just one British or settled parent can be enough. There are also different rules depending on the date of birth, which is why people sometimes discover that their British citizenship status isn’t quite what they assumed.

This is a useful explanation of what to check when someone’s British nationality status is unclear:
consultantlm.uk/consultant-article/british-nationality-problems-what-happens-when-your-citizenship-status-is-unclear