Major incident declared this morning near RAF Fairford with home evacuated.

Peacelilydilly

He's been proved correct with the number of boats coming over, he was one of the first in the channel recording this. Google and watch it.

It’s because of his Brexit that undocumented people are travelling the channel.
Brexit wiped out safe, legal routes where people’s records were looked into.
Brilliant, Nige. Not!

You forget the backs of container lorries it seems.

Mahmood’s bearing down on immigration has been so successful that the chancellor is going to be short of revenue by 4bn and up to 7 BN.

Basgetti according to AI the U.K. has never had legal routes for asylum seekers.

To claim asylum here in the U.K. you have to be on U.K. soil.

Having travelled by car frequently over the channel, there were 100’s of mainly young men looking to jump into your boot, on top of or under a lorry, in a caravan/trailer etc…

FriedGreenTomatoes2

You forget the backs of container lorries it seems.

A trickle not an "invasion"

Brexit and Farage who fanned the flames are to blame.

If Brexit and Farage are to blame why are the EU countries at braking point with immigration problems both legal and illegal. Your theory doesn't add up.

greyfur16

FriedGreenTomatoes2

You forget the backs of container lorries it seems.

A trickle not an "invasion"

Brexit and Farage who fanned the flames are to blame.

No it is the wars, famine, corrupt regimes long with the hard core Islam fundamentalist ideology in some countries which is driving mainly young men to leave their homeland and look for a new life in Europe.

The U.K. has a much smaller percentage of asylum seekers than the rest of Europe, but in my opinion it is still too many.

Apparently the lady farmer who made the phone call said she saw more men running away than the 5 arrested.

I'm inclined to agree, GG13.

We are still assuming an awful lot. On R4 this morning a retired Secret Services bloke said, well we cant assume its organised top down at all, it could be a rogue cell - after all, that has actually been the pattern in more recent years.

Lots of work will have to be done examining social media contacts of those arrested and so on. Goodness knows if Russia has a finger in the pie since it supports Iran.

As regards the EU and Brexit, I think our government is actually doing a lot to reduce numbers, much more than previous governments who just wanted to "ship off"the problem, which would have been impossible given the numbers now, and I doubt any kind of deterrent as many will just try again:

but we have lost the useful tradespeople coming over from Poland etc and lets face it many of them were very good.

Also it's easier to combat movements across countries when you are "in" the EU. However its very complex in Europe : Sweden used to be very very strict, but has just got a more left wing government and thats partly because its was felt the government was over punitive, as is the case in Spain, which isn the EU. and in Germany the rise of the right. (alongside, I might add, the rise of a strong left wing, Germany generally having very well organised folks...and also in Germany, its only in the old communist areas to the East the rise of the right has been so marked (more unemployment, underdevelopment ).

Very, very complex indeed.

Looks like the would be terrorists were about to be nabbed anyway as the intelligence agencies were monitoring them, but good that the woman farmer who spotted them acted as a good citizen should do.
We may have to wait a while to find out who they are and if they were Iran backed.

IMO not terrorists. Fuel thieves which Gloucester police have been trying to find for a while. Vans contained empty barrels/water butts.

kissngate

IMO not terrorists. Fuel thieves which Gloucester police have been trying to find for a while. Vans contained empty barrels/water butts.

I think that makes sense.

sundowngirl

Apparently the lady farmer who made the phone call said she saw more men running away than the 5 arrested.

As Oreo said they were being tracked anyway, the farmer could have inadvertently put her foot in a covert operation.

Fuel thieves. Really?

“The five men arrested over a suspected bomb plot targeting RAF Fairford are all British nationals, police have said.

Five men aged between 23 and 25 years old were arrested on Sunday on suspicion of terrorism and explosives offences after three suspicious vans were discovered 400m from the Gloucestershire air base.

The five suspects are all from London, police said, and are from Camden, Westminster and Willesden.

RAF Fairford is a key European outpost for the US air force, with American aircraft having used it to strike Iran.

Police are understood to suspect that Iran is the most likely state actor behind the alleged plot.“

Source : The Telegraph just now

They are from Cardiff?
Seriously?
All that way on a small boat, to Cardiff?

Trump knew all about them apparently.

I wonder if anyone took any notice of the woman who phoned the police on Friday reporting suspicious activity by one man near the base.
She actually spoke to him.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00323yg

The fact that people were evacuated in the middle of the night suggests it was pretty serious. They would not do that lightly. Not yet allowed back, either.

No one is saying definitively that these men are not involved in terrorist activity, but it is sensible to give consideration to alternative explanations.

It is what I’d expect the police and security services to do.

Maremia

They are from Cardiff?
Seriously?
All that way on a small boat, to Cardiff?

Trump knew all about them apparently.

With respect, I think that comment whooshed by you.
It was tongue in cheek referencing something else.

No Fried, Trump actually claimed he 'knew all about them'.
And of course we believe every utterance. 😉

The civilian staff at the base had left days before. Why would they evacuate them if they knew nothing of an impending attack.

Actually Maremia I meant the bit about Cardiff. My fault for not reading the second bit. 😁

Those arrested are all British Nationals apparantly.

Now out on bail

The five arrested are UK nationals! As usual folk are jumping the gun b3fire the full facts are known. Given this is a US air base , it is not surprising that it is a target for certain groups! Farage, as ever, stirring the pot!
Cossy you are absolutely correct in that this man is a grifter, takes a great pension from being an MEP paid for by an organisation he despises. How on earth can he be trusted ?