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grannystrong Wed 12-Jun-13 16:19:54

Why do so many people in this country pronounce it 'lanjeray'? (including on the radio). Do they think it's pronounced like that in French?

Mamie Wed 12-Jun-13 16:33:56

I think it is perfectly OK to give French words adopted into English and Anglicised pronunciation. I live in France and speak French, but I wouldn't dream of using a French pronunciation of Paris, for example, when in England. Nor to I correct my French friends when they get English words wrong, though I laughed so much when I was invited to a Toopairwah party that I had to explain why.

grannystrong Wed 12-Jun-13 16:38:12

No, I don't pronounce it Paree either, but Paris is pronounced here as written; my objection to 'lanjeray' is the ay sound at the end - where does that come from?

mollie Wed 12-Jun-13 17:16:39

Can I ask how it should be pronounced?

Mamie Wed 12-Jun-13 17:20:50

The closest I can get is lanje-ree. You sort of suggest the middle e and then roll the r. Granjura can probably do it better! Les linges are your linens and lave-linge is a washing machine.

mollie Wed 12-Jun-13 19:31:34

So the problems with the ending ... Either a long A or a long E with the latter being preferred?

Lilygran Wed 12-Jun-13 21:24:31

Drives me mad as well, grannystrong. And what's wrong with 'underwear'?
Other irritating mispronounciations (did you see what I did there?): restauranteur and chocolateer (for chocolatier/chocolatiere)

Bags Wed 12-Jun-13 21:34:06

This thread made me smile. Can't be arsed getting mad about stuff like that. Isn't the lingerie section where men tend to linger with their partners when normally they hate women's shopping?

Ana Wed 12-Jun-13 22:05:32

'Underwear' does sound a bit staid...grin

Lilygran Wed 12-Jun-13 22:32:30

How can your thoughts be ordered if your words are disordered?

Sel Wed 12-Jun-13 22:35:02

Nothing wrong with knickers and bosom holders Ana I agree, underwear - staid.

Ana Wed 12-Jun-13 22:35:03

You can choose your words...

Ana Wed 12-Jun-13 22:36:26

My post was not a response to yours, Sel!

Ana Wed 12-Jun-13 22:38:10

(as you know...) wink

Sel Wed 12-Jun-13 22:40:49

I don't think I've ever used the term 'lingerie' in my life..I could pronounce it should the need arise in the future thankfully grin

gillybob Wed 12-Jun-13 22:52:49

Over shoulder boulder holders or knicker crackers for me . grin

Sel Wed 12-Jun-13 22:57:38

Attagirl gillybob much better. My OH was American (he's been neutralised smile) and insists on referring to 'panties' Knickers I tell him, knickers.

Ana Wed 12-Jun-13 23:09:54

And isn't 'pantyhose' a truly horrible word...? confused

absent Thu 13-Jun-13 07:26:37

Restaurateur, not restauranteur, I think.

Mamie Thu 13-Jun-13 08:06:54

Mollie, it ends in the sound ee, like Brie. I never use the word lingerie either!

feetlebaum Thu 13-Jun-13 08:12:32

"And isn't 'pantyhose' a truly horrible word...?" - For a truly horrible item... males any woman's bum resemble a bank robber's face seen through a stocking mask...

Why people insist on pronouncing 'lingerie' as 'lonjeray' is just one of life's irritating mysteries.

Bez Thu 13-Jun-13 08:27:59

My Aussie friend refers to pants/knickers etc as 'duds' and Sellotape was durex - not sure if that is still the case - caused awful confusion when they came to stay the first time!!! grin

Mamie Thu 13-Jun-13 08:32:22

Reading my early attempt to render it phonetically as lanje-ree, I should perhaps have said that it is a short a, as in flange. I suspect that the posh Anglicised pronunciation might be lonje-eree, which is still wrong, if you want to be pernickety, which I don't!

mollie Thu 13-Jun-13 08:46:28

In the scheme of things an 'ee' or an 'ay' doesn't seem that important to me but if anyone overhears me getting it wrong (and I will, and do, frequently, then I apologise. I'll do my best to be polite though...

annodomini Thu 13-Jun-13 08:54:13

In the lingerie window of Macy's in San Francisco, I saw it coyly described as 'intimate garments'. Would never have thought of that one!