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Going forward!

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Lilygran Tue 21-Jan-14 10:10:24

This expression was used three times in quick succession on Today this morning. Once it meant 'in future' (so why didn't he say that?). Twice it meant nothing at all. The other meaningless expression around at the moment is 'to be fair'. Sometimes it seems to mean 'to be honest'. Where do these expressions come from? And why do they spread so quickly?

margaretm74 Fri 24-Jan-14 10:46:45

Used to be our school song!

margaretm74 Fri 24-Jan-14 10:50:15

Gaudeamus igitur,
Juvenes dum sumus;
Post icundum iuventutem,
Post molestam senectutem
Nos habebit humus. Let us therefore rejoice,
While we are young;
After our youth,
After a troublesome old age
The ground will hold us.

Perhaps not such a great choice for Gransnet? ......

Icyalittle Fri 24-Jan-14 14:33:16

Mine too, from a Scottish school - and I remember singing the Vagabond King song in a school show when I was in my teens. It is still one of my best rousing singalongs for driving alone, although with lots of dum-di-dums for forgotten words. Many thanks for the lyrics!

Galen Fri 24-Jan-14 15:07:34

We'll we can be troublesome can't we? If in doubt ask GNHQ!

annodomini Fri 24-Jan-14 15:27:06

We were constantly singing the 'Gaudie' at St Andrews in my time. There was a special day in our first term when any first year student could be stopped by a senior student and asked (told) to sing it. I suspect such traditions may have died out by now.

specki4eyes Fri 24-Jan-14 16:05:36

I first started noticing "going forward" in the letters my son was receiving from his wife's solicitors. It started to annoy me and then he started using it, so I slapped his legs (metaphorically speaking). Amusingly, we were talking about various things to do with his divorce one day and we both agreed that as a phrase, it was quite useful! I can remember being chastised at school as in, "in future"..you will not do this/that or the other, which now sounds somewhat pompous. Could "going forward" just be a tad more positive, if nothing else?
I'm a golfer and the one thing that is annoying me in the world of golf is the shortening of adverbs such as "hit it solid/clean" as opposed to solidly/cleanly.
They are even doing this on headlines in publications. I also saw "bored of" in a quality newspaper recently. Grrr!

feetlebaum Fri 24-Jan-14 16:18:50

@margaretm74 - It always makes me smile to see people put on a solemn face as though listening to a hymn when they hear 'Gaudeamus igitur...'

margaretm74 Fri 24-Jan-14 17:40:40

I think I still have an EP under the stairs of Mario Lanza singing it .... . Must do a declutter soon!

Anne58 Fri 24-Jan-14 17:40:55

Mamie just love the envelope thing! grin

So, let's run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes, or let me throw this in your goldfish bowl and see if it blows bubbles.

A couple that I always hated, even though I will grudgingly admit that they have a grain of truth:

There is no "I" in team (please pass the sick bowl, I'll try not to miss and puke all over your silly new mens fashion pointy shoes that no-ones toes could possibly go to the end of)

Don't assume, it only makes an ass of U and me (sorry, I have already puked up once, would you mind awfully if I just pissed myself laughing at your hackneyed phrase this time?)

Joan Fri 24-Jan-14 22:27:24

Some good ones there, Phoenix!

A new thing here in Australia, and possibly elsewhere, is the increasing use of 'two times' instead of twice. Is twice going the way of thrice? After all. why use one work when two will do?

I suppose strong words weaken all the time - it happens to verbs quite a lot.

Sorry; i might have deviated from corporate language here.

Grannyknot Fri 24-Jan-14 22:34:58

mamie I must remember that the next time sometimes says pushing the envelope.

These irritate me - "future proofing" as in "we must future proof the document" and someone I know was employed to do "horizon scanning", I kid you not. As a consultant of course.

posie Fri 24-Jan-14 22:42:09

Whatever wink

margaretm74 Sat 25-Jan-14 19:49:48

Lots of blue sky thinking outside the box and up the flagpole on here. Whatever. To be honest, I need a couple wines.

SJP Mon 27-Jan-14 18:54:28

Oh joy to find like minded folk.
When did
problems become "issues";
winning a medal become "medalling" (?);
"Hopefully" begin every sentence;
"like" replace a comma;

SJP Mon 27-Jan-14 18:58:48

Ooh just remembered a few more horrors

Synergy,
Is this idea gaining traction?
Silo thinking
Wake up and smell the coffee

MamaCaz Thu 30-Jan-14 20:16:05

I used to be annoyed by a couple of expressions that have been mentioned on here - "back in the day", and "I'm loving ..." - but sometimes use them myself now! blush

One that I still hate but hear more and more is "my bad" instead of "my mistake".

Ana Thu 30-Jan-14 20:28:29

Oh yes, I do so hate that expression, MamaCaz - horrible!

Joan Thu 30-Jan-14 22:19:13

I don't even understand 'my bad'. Is it short for 'Am I bad'? I've heard it, and hated it.

But there are loads of such things. I hate the way they use 'like' in reported speech, such as 'I was, like, oh stop it'. I don't think anyone over 40 or 50 uses it, but I could be wrong.

Eloethan Thu 30-Jan-14 22:39:27

He presumably meant the sporting world. If he meant anything else, he must be deluded.

Gally Fri 31-Jan-14 06:30:23

I think it's been mentioned before, but on entering a shop/ cafe or similar, especially here in Oz, someone inevitably enquiries about my health - ' How are you today?'. I persist in answering in my very best English, 'very well thank you' instead of the anticipated 'I'm good, thanks' which is enough to drive me to the nearest bottle of Fifth Leg [shriek emoticon]

Joan Fri 31-Jan-14 06:42:32

I'm always tempted to tell them exactly how I am! ( well, I've got a bad back, sore feet, I'm tired, fed up, and I'm only here 'cos I've got no choice).

But I say "Fine thanks". Wouldn't want to give a poor innocent sales assistant a nervous breakdown by nobbling social convention.

grumppa Fri 31-Jan-14 06:50:46

"Are you all right there?"

No I'm not all right. I'm standing here at the bar holding a tenner because I want to buy a drink.

What's wrong with "Can I help you?"

Gorki Fri 31-Jan-14 07:10:02

"Thank you for waiting " at the bank to which most people reply "No problem " but ,depending on my mood, I invariably reply "I didn't exactly have a choice ".

Aka Fri 31-Jan-14 07:13:45

That reminds me of the bank teller, who, when I eventually got served, asked me what the weather was like today. To which I replied that it was sunny when I came in but who knows what it's like now!

thatbags Fri 31-Jan-14 08:27:55

"My bad" is another way of admitting the mistake is one's own – sorry, my mistake. But it's shorter and more streetspeak. I suppose that is its attraction. I don't have a problem with others' use of it. I might even use it myself instead of "I'm fine". It's just a fashion in oiling the wheels of ordinary, everyday, not-terribly-significant social interaction. Not worth getting heated about.

Don't have a problem with "I'm good. You?" in response to how are you either.

One doesn't have to use expressions one doesn't like oneself, but one's blood pressure probably benefits from a going with the flow shrug-like approach to others' usage. wink