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grammar question

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TriciaF Fri 17-Jul-15 11:55:38

about the verb to swim.
Is it correct to say "we've swum in that lake".
Or is it "we've swam " " " ."
I wrote "swum" first, it looked strange, so I changed it to "we've been swimming etc."

thatbags Sat 25-Jul-15 11:40:17

what is actually what is

aye, right wink

Bellanonna Sat 25-Jul-15 13:15:54

I've been away so don't know if anyone has mentioned past tense of to text, I.e. texted. I did start a thread about this several weeks ago and most agreed it is, of course, texted, although I still hear " I text him" far more frequently. That drives me pottier than many of the pet hates mentioned here.
I think gpo telephonists were taught to say haitch to distinguish h from a and that does make sense. Not right in normal conversation though. Many posts back someone mentioned " I do" as a common reply to " have you got?". I hate that. I think most of my personal pet hates have already been covered.

Jane10 Sat 25-Jul-15 13:25:33

There is a current habit of talking about something that happened in the past in the present tense eg "well I'm walking down the road and I'm seeing Jim. Hello he says" etc instead of "I walked down the road and saw Jim". If you know what I mean.

Bellanonna Sat 25-Jul-15 13:55:02

I think this is a dialect thing but some Londoners say "I see him yesterday" as well as " I seen him yesterday", for " saw".
Also, I say heart rending but it's quite common to see heart rendering. I don't think the latter is right but I could be wrong .....

Greyduster Sat 25-Jul-15 13:58:06

I thought about this thread earlier today when walking past a driveway with a Kia Cee'd parked in it. I thought the apostrophe was just a bit of metal embellishment until I went onto the Kia website and there is clearly an apostrophe in the name. Can't imagine what purpose it serves.

crozziefan23 Sat 25-Jul-15 14:11:28

I agree with you about the use of "of" instead of "have". It annoys me intensely. Grammar seems to be going to pot.
Another problem is when people start a sentence with "myself" as in
"Myself and Susan went to the cinema"
Or, " Me and Susan went to the cinema."
I was always taught that if you could take the other person out of the sentence and it still made sense then the grammar should be correct.
"Me went to the cinema" doesn't but "I went to the cinema does."
Therefore "Susan and I went to the cinema" would be the correct version.
Has anyone else cringed when hearing this sort of thing?

annodomini Sat 25-Jul-15 14:58:24

The I/me error is frequently heard from the Masterchef presenters, Messrs Torode and Wallace. My teeth grind when I hear them.

Cosafina Sat 25-Jul-15 15:05:53

There they're and their
Your and you're
It's and its
Off and of (people constantly get them the wrong way round)
Loose and lose
Should/could/would of instead of have
Apostrophes

Is it because grammar is no longer taught properly at school, or did people not pay attention/care when they were at school?

Or are we all just a dying breed of pedants? hmm

floorflock Sat 25-Jul-15 15:22:40

Is it just me? Am I the only one who has a problem with people imagining that there is a h in some words i.e. strong which is often pronounced shtrong. I have found that many words starting st or str are now spoken with the imagined h in them and I do get really cross about it! I would send these people back to school.

Gagamarnie Sat 25-Jul-15 15:29:01

I totally agree about the past tense of text. It is a regular verb and takes "ed" in the past. Even my DS said, "I text her and she didn't reply". Another thing....has anyone else noticed the extra "is" after a phrase that ends in "is", e.g. "The thing is, is...." This drives me up the wall! It probably started when someone was hesitating, giving him/herself time to think, but now it is used all the time. Sadly, I now find myself waiting for the second "is" when someone is being interviewed on television.

Redrach Sat 25-Jul-15 16:15:12

I also can't stand "lay on the bed" instead of "lie on the bed" and "he gave it to John and I" instead of John and me.

Bellanonna Sat 25-Jul-15 16:58:28

Our Pilates teacher tells us to lay down, and also to stretch one vertebrae at a time. Oh, I'm just being an old fusspot!

trisher Sat 25-Jul-15 18:18:20

My mother lives in sheltered housing and they had a scheme manager who consistently produced notices with a range of mistakes in- 'there' etc being a favourite. Another one was 'are' for 'our'. We thought about correcting them in red pen but chickened out,

Conni7 Sat 25-Jul-15 18:34:01

When I was at school, I had to write out ten times "It's means it is" and I have never forgotten it. Another irritation is "John and I" when it's the object of the sentence. If you took out the John, it would be "She gave it to me" not "She gave it to I". Easy.

Conni7 Sat 25-Jul-15 18:35:31

Have just seen that Redrach feels the same as I do.

Conni7 Sat 25-Jul-15 18:39:47

What about "How are you?" Reply "I'm good".

Daisyanswerdo Sat 25-Jul-15 18:40:29

I'd like to add to feetlebaum's and Conn17's posts that 'it's' can also mean 'it has' as well as 'it is', as in 'it's been a lovely day'.

NfkDumpling Sat 25-Jul-15 19:45:23

Mr iPad only knows it's. I have an argument every time and often forget to correct it. So forgive me if it's crops up in the wrong place!

annodomini Sat 25-Jul-15 19:58:48

Android has the upper hand there. Both my phone and my tablet give me the choice between its and it's.

GrandmaKT Sat 25-Jul-15 20:16:38

Greyduster - according to Wikipedia "The Cee’d is Kia’s first European-designed and built car and Kia intends to sell and manufacture the car exclusively in Europe. To mark the occasion, Kia took the initials of the European Economic Community, EEC or CEE in some places and added ED for European Design. Realising that "CEEED" had too many ‘E’s, they replaced the last 'E' with an apostrophe, with "Cee'd" being the end result." So now we know!

aprilgrace Sat 25-Jul-15 20:34:07

And has anyone else noticed that things don't escalate these days? They esculate! Especially on the BBC.Drives me mad.

GG62 Sat 25-Jul-15 20:48:30

The error that really annoys me is 'less people.......' It should be 'fewer people......less should be used with uncountable nouns and fewer with countable.

Ana Sat 25-Jul-15 20:54:31

Yes, that's one that sets my teeth on edge too!

Along with 'the amount of people...' when it should be 'the number of people'.

GG62 Sat 25-Jul-15 21:00:10

Yes! Me too!

Greyduster Sat 25-Jul-15 21:18:13

GrandmaKT thank you for finding that explanation! (still think it's a bit daft!) smile