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The Americanisation of English

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gulligranny Thu 09-May-24 17:10:15

I notice that more and more I am seeing things like "favorite" and "likable" and "judgment" which to my eye and mind seem so wrong. I put it down to American spellcheckers, anyone have any other ideas?

There are also Americanisms creeping into other areas; I am currently reading "Broken Light" by Joanne Harris, where the main character (a menopausal woman) keeps having "hot flashes". Not in this country we don't! It's a "hot flush", and there's an end to it, but I wonder about the editor of said book allowing (or maybe insisting?) on something so wrong for a book set in Britain with a British cast of characters and written by a British author.

Rant over, thank you.

MissInterpreted Sat 11-May-24 14:28:10

Wheniwasyourage

Those of us who can say “loch” rather than “lock”, say “Bach” quite naturally in the same way that the Germans do, welbeck! smile

Exactly! Bark??? Never heard anyone pronounce it like that - even those south of the border! grin

Callistemon21 Sat 11-May-24 14:38:04

Mikky

Mom instead of mum

That's a Midlands thing!!

Wheniwasyourage Sat 11-May-24 14:45:11

Remember, MissInterpreted, often people south of the border don’t actually pronounce the “r”in the word “bark”, so it wouldn’t sound the same as if pronounced by someone up here!

Witzend Tue 28-May-24 11:10:19

Grandma70s

We weren’t allowed to say toilet at school. It was considered a vulgar euphemism.

It was never a word used at home when I was a child, either. It was the ‘lavatory’ - a word I always hated, at least partly because of connotations of freezing cold and horrible hard Bronco/Izal paper - with that characteristic smell!

It was a relief when ‘loo’ became common, and perfectly acceptable at home.

Elegran Tue 28-May-24 12:00:02

Bellasnana

Having two daughters living in the US for 20+ years I find I actually rather like American English, it’s a language of its own!

I was shocked the first time I heard someone say ‘erb’ instead of ‘herb’ though and I agree ‘dove’ sounds very odd instead of ‘dived’. Also ‘drug’ instead of ‘dragged’, but certainly nothing to be irritated about.

I don't know the background of why Americans say "drug" for "dragged" but I do know the motto of Sussex is "We won't be druv." = We won't be driven.

It was also the unofficial motto and battlecry of the 31,000 men of the Royal Sussex Regiment in WW1, Grandfather was in the regiment, and the motto certainly suited him.

Ali08 Tue 28-May-24 21:05:36

One that irritates the heck out of me is actually a lengthened word, just for a change, 'burglarized'!
No, you have not been burglarized you have been burgled.
Grrrr!!

suzikyoo Fri 31-May-24 13:41:51

I once asked an American colleague (and fellow English teacher) why they pronounced words like "ballet, homage, harass" etc with stress on the final syllable. She explained that pronouncing a word with French intonation and/or stress is considered 'very posh and erudite' to Americans. Funny how in the last few years it has become de rigeur over here.

Wheniwasyourage Fri 31-May-24 15:11:13

Ali08

One that irritates the heck out of me is actually a lengthened word, just for a change, 'burglarized'!
No, you have not been burglarized you have been burgled.
Grrrr!!

Oh yes, that grates with me too. It sounds so silly!

Curtaintwitcher Fri 31-May-24 15:15:59

A big part of the problem is that the internet is based in America, so you are confronted with the American version of English all the time. It must be very confusing for young people to have to deal with this. The BBC doesn't help because it has also adopted the American spellings and expressions.

PamelaJ1 Fri 31-May-24 18:54:41

I will admit to using outage instead of power cut.
I will now go and hang my head in shame.
I do have to keep remembering that octordle is American and colour is not colour. That does irritate.

JamesandJon33 Fri 31-May-24 19:37:12

I dislike ‘she fit’ …she knit e.g. Instead of she fitted etc .I just read a book on 18th century London. They had sidewalks. !

NotSpaghetti Sat 01-Jun-24 05:54:43

I just read a book on 18th century London. They had sidewalks!

Crikey! grin

NotSpaghetti Sat 01-Jun-24 05:56:27

JamesandJon33 was it written by an American (or published there)?

Did they use "pavement", "road" or "carriageway" for the road part?

NotSpaghetti Sat 01-Jun-24 06:00:46

I suppose pavement is the likely original here - from pavimentum?

JamesandJon33 Sat 01-Jun-24 06:01:02

Yes NotSpaghetti. an American writer. I think thy had roads but wasn’t focused on that

AskAlice Sat 01-Jun-24 08:50:32

Jaxjacky, sorry, but that really made me laugh!

AskAlice Sat 01-Jun-24 08:51:38

That was in response to the Four Tops example Jaxjacky.

Wheniwasyourage Sat 01-Jun-24 11:59:01

JamesandJon33

I dislike ‘she fit’ …she knit e.g. Instead of she fitted etc .I just read a book on 18th century London. They had sidewalks. !

I'm glad someone else agrees with me (see 09 May 18:54:21) about "knitted" and "fitted"!

Bumface Sat 01-Jun-24 12:07:32

My GS's junior school put a notice on one of the classroom doors saying 'Be proud of your smarts.' need I comment further?

JamesandJon33 Sat 01-Jun-24 17:17:46

I had a smart on my hand once. From a ruler

Grandma70s Sat 01-Jun-24 17:31:39

Bumface

My GS's junior school put a notice on one of the classroom doors saying 'Be proud of your smarts.' need I comment further?

I don’t even know what that means.

Debs8 Sat 01-Jun-24 21:55:49

Really enjoying this thread. 🇺🇸

NotSpaghetti Sat 01-Jun-24 22:25:59

What is a smart?

Elegran Sat 01-Jun-24 22:34:22

A smart is what a little Smartie will grow up as if it can avoid being eaten.

NotSpaghetti Sun 02-Jun-24 02:01:31

Thank you Elegran - obvious really!