Me and................

you and a dog named Boo.....

It seems to be particularly prevalent in detective stories.
Myself and the Inspector.....

My sister is 4 years younger and we had a similar education until she was about eight years old. Our parents took her away from a very good junior school and moved her to a closer one. That school turned out to be a sixties progressive school where grammar was not considered to be necessary. I recall having a debate with her teacher when I was 14 because I was so worried about her written work. Many years down the line I still cringe when I see her poor grammar and I am reminded of my discussion with Mr Spredborough and wonder if he realised the damage he was doing. So my point is that it is too easy to be annoyed at poor grammar but it goes deeper into those formative years. We sometimes talk about that school and wonder whether it was the root of how we had quite different careers and marriages. Nonetheless we are still close to each other and I try not to cringe, I really do.

I do expect radio and TV presenters to get things right.
On Bargain Hunt the ‘expert’ Danny says “ You was”. I cringe.

Substantive when substantual is meant.

Chardy

'Me and Fred' doesn't annoy me nearly as much as 'Fred and myself went to...'

I agree. All this using myself is wrong.

BrandyGran

In N. Ireland people say “I was waiting on the bus” instead of “I was waiting FOR the bus”. Visions of people sitting on the roof of the bus!!

My mother used to “jump a bus”😳

Is that like jumping the shark?

BlueBelle

Everytime I read the title I start singing Me and my teddy bear

Me and my Teddy Bear had some lovely adventures when we was young.

In speech, I find it entirely acceptable to use disjunctive pronouns, for emphasis or simply to introduce the subject(s) of a sentence.
When talking about my late DH, I might say, " Me and him, we had a ridiculous amount of fun." But I wouldn't write it.
It's analogous to the French usage, which would also be acceptable in writing.
As for different to and different from, both have been in use for centuries, as also has different than.
The prescriptive attitude to language of teachers in the 1950s seems now to be rather ridiculous.

Jacky1947

Hubby and me, me and my friend/mum/sister....sound more normal imo

"Hubby" , OMG.

kircubbin2000

Or were and where.

Or bear and bare, cue and queue; all regulars on GN and MN.

Chardy

'Me and Fred' doesn't annoy me nearly as much as 'Fred and myself went to...'

.... or even worse, "Myself and Fred ...."

butterandjam

kircubbin2000

Or were and where.

Or bear and bare, cue and queue; all regulars on GN and MN.

In spelling: "barbeque" - that should be pronounced "barbek"!
Either "barbequeue" (the original meaning being from "barbe" (beard) and "queue" (tail) or barbecue, the Anglicised version.
(Ready as always, to be corrected!)

Regarding "Me and..." when I was a TA in Y4 the teacher actually wrote this on the whiteboard as a story starter: "Me and my friend was on the way home from school when..."

Just seen this thread.

Yep....I'm not the Queen - but it's "my husband and I", "my friend and I" etc in my book.

Me can never be the subject of a sentence, It is always the direct or indirect object.

None of you would ever say, "me is going to go home now", would you? So why say "me and Jane are going shopping"?

Apart from the grammatical rule, I was taught as a child it was also a matter of politeness always to mention oneself LAST in a sentence, irrespective of whether the pronoun was the subject or the predicate.

In other words, "Our grandmother always gave my sister and me such lovely presents." not "me and my sister" which in this example is grammatically correct.

In a cafe I used to frequent with a group of friends , I was usually the last to be asked for my order and the waitress always said to me, notepad in hand”And for yourself”? For some reason I found this annoying.

Oh yes, "myself"!
"Can you send it to myself..." etc Grrrr!

Cf French:
Moi et ma soeur, nous faisons une promenade.
It's correct in French and I find it entirely acceptable in speech to say:
Me and my sister, we went for a walk.

In French, "moi" is not the same as "me". They would never say "me et ma soeur" or "ma soeur et me". I have heard moi described as the demonstrative form, as in "Qui, moi?" We would usually say "Who, me?", not "Who, I?", using me demonstratively.

welbeck

This is so prevalent now that I think it has become an alternative form.

Thta is why you dont find me in this subject very often.

Language is not a static thing.

I occasionally read old maps.
Almost another language from today.

.... Mind you, in As You Like It (IV, 3, line 136) Oliver says "'Twas I: but 'tis not I"....

I call a barbeque a bee-bee-cue

grumppa

.... Mind you, in As You Like It (IV, 3, line 136) Oliver says "'Twas I: but 'tis not I"....

It was I
It is not I
What am I missing?
Both of these are correct as the verb “to be” does not take an object , so we should not actually say “It’s only me!” as we arrive at a friends door, or “oops it was me” when admitting to that spilt drink on the carpet

I suppose it is more a bee-bee-que(ue)
anyway point being I never use the word barbeque
I think I might have gone to a progressive school. The head master was openly a big wig with the local Labour party and was a proper leftie who drove a banged out volvo and knit his own socks