America's Biggest Dog Show .

Ah, the USA, where they chop off dogs’ tails and ears for fashion. Where they believe long-discredited nonsense about training and use electric shock collars. Where it’s ok to shut a dog in a small cage all day and all night and feed dogs all their lives on dried food like a factory-farmed pig.

watermeadow

Ah, the USA, where they chop off dogs’ tails and ears for fashion. Where they believe long-discredited nonsense about training and use electric shock collars. Where it’s ok to shut a dog in a small cage all day and all night and feed dogs all their lives on dried food like a factory-farmed pig.

Couldn't have put it better myself!

I have ongoing arguments on Facebook about cropping dogs ears…

water meadow , thanks for your post. I joined a fb group which turned out to be American. Dogs left 8 hours a day in a crate while owners work , to stop the dog destroying or toileting in the house. Electric shock or prong collars the first response to a dog that pulls on its lead. Ear cropping and worse

What show is it? I don't think Westminster was in February

I'm also against cropping unless needed medically.

Iam64

water meadow , thanks for your post. I joined a fb group which turned out to be American. Dogs left 8 hours a day in a crate while owners work , to stop the dog destroying or toileting in the house. Electric shock or prong collars the first response to a dog that pulls on its lead. Ear cropping and worse

I have constant arguments with Americans on various Labrador groups over shock and prong collars and similar issues!

Don’t they de claw cats, too?

watermeadow

Ah, the USA, where they chop off dogs’ tails and ears for fashion. Where they believe long-discredited nonsense about training and use electric shock collars. Where it’s ok to shut a dog in a small cage all day and all night and feed dogs all their lives on dried food like a factory-farmed pig.

Lots of people in the UK only feed their dogs dried food and you make sweeping generalisations about how millions upon millions of US citizens treat their dogs.

Oreo

watermeadow

Ah, the USA, where they chop off dogs’ tails and ears for fashion. Where they believe long-discredited nonsense about training and use electric shock collars. Where it’s ok to shut a dog in a small cage all day and all night and feed dogs all their lives on dried food like a factory-farmed pig.

Lots of people in the UK only feed their dogs dried food and you make sweeping generalisations about how millions upon millions of US citizens treat their dogs.

We don't, however, allow the cropping of ears or tails or the use of shock and prong collars.

Come to that I see dogs chained up in small backyards here all day who drive neighbours mad with barking when their owners are at work.
Sure there are some bad practices like ear and tail cropping over the pond but any Rottweiler in the UK has a docked tail too.

I know it’s illegal here but it happens and have never seen a Rottweiler or Boxer with a tail where I live.
Also many dogs get their tails docked legally here if you can prove it’s a working dog.Still cruel to the dog, working or not.

I don’t think the UK has anything to be proud of in that we have uncontrolled dogs roaming about with useless owners, dangerous dogs the size of lions still around with the said useless owners either treating them as weapons or swearing blind that their vicious XL is really a sweetheart.

Oreo

Come to that I see dogs chained up in small backyards here all day who drive neighbours mad with barking when their owners are at work.
Sure there are some bad practices like ear and tail cropping over the pond but any Rottweiler in the UK has a docked tail too.

Docked tails imo aren’t as bad as cropped ears as with some breeds there is a reason for it as the tails can get damaged and have to be removed when the dog is an adult which is a much worse operation. Having said that it can also cause incontinence so I’m glad it’s been banned here.But there is no justification in cropping the ears of a small puppy. In America they seem to think it makes the dogs more attractive.

ViceVersa

Oreo

watermeadow

Ah, the USA, where they chop off dogs’ tails and ears for fashion. Where they believe long-discredited nonsense about training and use electric shock collars. Where it’s ok to shut a dog in a small cage all day and all night and feed dogs all their lives on dried food like a factory-farmed pig.

Lots of people in the UK only feed their dogs dried food and you make sweeping generalisations about how millions upon millions of US citizens treat their dogs.

We don't, however, allow the cropping of ears or tails or the use of shock and prong collars.

Shock collars (and possibly prong collars) are not illegal in England, Scotland and NI. Well done Wales for outlawing them.

There are many bad things done in breeding dogs, to have big popping out eyes, to have pushed in noses so they can hardly breathe, to be too long in the spine and so on.It’s all pretty awful if you ask me and just as bad here as anywhere else bar the ear cropping.

ViceVersa

Oreo

watermeadow

Ah, the USA, where they chop off dogs’ tails and ears for fashion. Where they believe long-discredited nonsense about training and use electric shock collars. Where it’s ok to shut a dog in a small cage all day and all night and feed dogs all their lives on dried food like a factory-farmed pig.

Lots of people in the UK only feed their dogs dried food and you make sweeping generalisations about how millions upon millions of US citizens treat their dogs.

We don't, however, allow the cropping of ears or tails or the use of shock and prong collars.

Docking of tails was allowed here.

Our first spaniel had had his tail docked; it was customary as long tails could get caught up when they were working and cause a painful injury.

Ears? What is the point of thst?

Nanato3 starte a lively thread and then watermeadow convinced most GNs to be biased and believe that ALL people in one nation are cruel to dogs and the other nation is not. What a lot of hogwash. That is how wars begin: the hatred brews when people erase individualism from individuals.

*lovely thread

(apparantly my fingers cant type on this stupid tiny keyboard on the phone. Whoever thought this was advanced technology !)

Oh dear me, what have I started .
I love dogs and there were many beautiful dogs on the show .

I thought it would be a lighthearted thread

And it should continue as intended.

From the thread title I honestly thought this was going to be about a competition to find America's biggest dog

I think that's what it was intended to be eddiecat.

I love dogs and for that reason I don't watch professional dog shows. I don't trust the owners/breeders to have the best interests of the dogs at heart. Not when there are huge monetary prizes to be won along with advertising opportunities and of course an enormous amount of personal prestige. They aren't doing it for the dogs are they and the dogs don't have a choice in the matter.

Cropping ears? Why on earth do that?