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Do all women get fed up with their husband's 'stuff'?(long)

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sarahssweetshop Mon 20-Oct-14 20:21:02

I'm wondering if what I feel is common or if it's just me.
DH and I have been married 30 years. We are both almost 60. We are both 'young' for our ages- most people think we are late 40s, and touch wood we are fit.

It hasn't been a great marriage. I had doubts from the beginning to do with lack of common interests but have given it my best shot due to having 2 lovely kids and knowing that DH is a kind and loving man who is 100% committed to me. But I sometimes feel very lonely in the marriage because we are quite different. I'll go as far as saying I am a writer, and he's never read a book since we married. We have a few things in common but not anything that really matters to me.

I left him for a few months a few years back to have a break but came back to give it another go.

Recently though I can see now good in the relationship and he has started to drive me mad with his 'stuff'. He is a hoarder and now the children have left home we are getting to grips with sorting out the house. We don't have a lot of storage space and he takes up more than his fair share. We have boxes under the bed with 'stuff'- electrical bits and pieces. He's untidy- uses any surface as a storage place and won't put things away unless I nag.

We had a massive 'row' a few weeks ago when I said unless he changed then I'd had enough because throughout our marriage, although he's done DIY, he's never cooked, washed his clothes or ironed or done ANY housework. I am not busier than ever with work - now the children have gone- so told him he has to share. I stopped ironing his clothes months ago.

Throughout our marriage I worked part time ( writing is a new venture for me) and was working around 20 hours a week. Not as much as him by any means but enough considering I was doing 90% of the chores including shopping for food, cooking every meal and all the laundry.

He still has to asked to help with the housework- he doesn't 'see' what needs doing. Lately I've been thinking it might be easier just to be on my own and not have to clear up after anyone else, or live with their untidiness or mess.

I don't know if this is how lots of women feel as they get older- or if it's a reflection on my marriage. I just feel he irritates me all the time, but I also feel that I am stuck with it because I don't earn enough to support myself, and I'm not sure I want to be totally alone either.

rosequartz Tue 21-Oct-14 21:03:31

We are both hoarders but not to excess. His is mostly in the garage, mine is in cupboards in the house. He nags me to get rid of my art stuff, my craft stuff, too many clothes - but I might need them one day. He has a garage full of stuff that he 'acquires' from anyone and everyone who is throwing stuff away.
However, the house is (relatively) tidy, except when the DGC visit.

Just be thankful he does not volunteer to do the ironing. DH has done this since we were both working full-time and he has wrecked some of my things by ironing out the crinkles in crinkly clothes, burning lace etc etc despite pleas NOT to iron certain things. The latest was my one and only best dress last week.

However, despite a few arguments we seem to rub along OK, so it sounds to me as if there is a bit more going on there, sarahssweetshop - are you fed up with his annoying ways or fed up with him? I would say, however, that men in general do not 'see' what needs doing until you stop doing it.

pompa Wed 22-Oct-14 06:01:36

I guess we are both hoarders, with me it's tools, DIY and model related stuff, anything that may have a use sometime in the next millenium.

Linda would not class herself as a hoarder, but, we have a large kitchen and every possible storage space and shelf is full of cooking related stuff, much of it never sees the light of day, but she "might need it someday" and wardrobe space, lets not go there. Her crafting stuff is under control atm, but it is growing daily, quote, "save those sweet wrappers, I might have a use for them" etc.

kittylester Wed 22-Oct-14 07:13:50

DD2's parents in law have a kitchen in the dining room because it was being thrown out by a neighbour! confused

Anya Wed 22-Oct-14 07:27:13

I'm very much with Jingl

From now on whoever cooks, the other person clears up - properly or you don't cook and you buy yourself a ready meal or go out to the local hostelry, by yourself.

Insist a large bin bag every week is sent to the tip/charity shop/put on free cycle/etc. if this doesn't happen just sweep up a bin bagful yourself and tip it.

After all what can he do?

rosequartz Wed 22-Oct-14 13:01:42

When DD was a teenager her friend's mother used to sweep her children's stuff that was left lying around into bin bags and then 'fine' them from their pocket money if they wanted any items back.

They learnt to be very tidy, perhaps I should have done it with my DC.

You could throw all the stuff he leaves around into bin bags and see if he misses any of it.

thatbags Wed 22-Oct-14 17:38:43

Talking of teenagers. I think they probably beat all unhelpful husbands hollow. Went into Minibags's room today to borrow an art pencil. Her two boxes of special artists' colour pencils were in a heap various heaps on the floor—like most of her other possessions; she uses the floor as her wardrobe too; the bed frame is on its side and the mattress is on the floor; you get the idea... me, I just shrug.Her mess, her problem. She wants to decorate the room. I've said I'll help once we can actually get at the walls. Maybe in a year or two??

Well, I gathered up the pencils while choosing the one I wanted (for marking things in a bryology book the paper of which is not suited to a highlighter pen, in case you wanted to know) and plonked them into one tin. Then I saw the slice of bread, thickly spread with Nutella, also on the floor. Guess which side was on the carpet.

Sigh.

thatbags Wed 22-Oct-14 17:39:15

They're a bit like toddlers really.

thatbags Wed 22-Oct-14 17:39:26

Teenagers.

rosequartz Wed 22-Oct-14 18:03:01

Sounds like DD2 thatbags.

At least if she lives in squalor now it is in her own place.
(Actually it was very tidy when we went to stay last year - how annoying!)

YellowRose Thu 23-Oct-14 14:18:24

You might get lucky. He might leave.

this made me laugh .. I wish. I'm in similar situation .62 full time working. partner of 15 years who is 64 and gets up at 5 comes back at 7 as a Private Hire taxi driver - wakes me up when he comes to bed, wakes me up in the morning when he goes out .. I love sleep. .. but because he's out of the house most of the time I also feel I shouldn't nag all the time about all the stuff he doesn't do ...
I'd bore myself anyway. He started explaining to me what "lichen" was last night .. I didn't ask him to .. Now I've got a permanent knot in my stomach of resentment. I've made my bed I know that now .. but I think I've changed and he hasn't ..

I have outside interests, and used to like his company - he's quite funny - or angry - but doesn't do "small talk" or any talk unless its politics .. but now realise I wont change him and I'm stuck with it unless I leave .. I lurch between feeling sorry for him and sorry for me .. we have a lovely flat with garden in central London. I have two cats. Lots to be grateful for .. but still the loneliness is killing .. he just told me to CHILLOUT because I was telling him about crap Virgin are (by text) .. while trying to stop them coming to an incorrect appt tomorrow morning. If I cry he calls it a "blubfest" .. sorry rant over .. sarahsweetshop struck a nerve