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Understanding my son's girlfriend

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Frannyannie Wed 28-Oct-15 10:59:17

My son and his girlfriend have been together for nearly 4 years; my grandson was born 1 year ago. They live 40 miles away. The girlfriend has a history of anxiety and is OCD about the baby, house, etc. This is causing them to have relationship issues. The problem we have is that we want to visit our grandson but we hardly ever see him because we have a dog that my son's girlfriend will not tolerate in the house. If we visit then he has to stay in the garden, which obviously is only possible in good weather (which is hard to predict in advance, even in summer!) I would understand her concerns if our dog was a vicious brute, hairy or a flea bag, but he is everything but. This is upsetting us a lot because her parents live close to them and see our grandson all the time. We cannot afford to pay £25 - £30 for dog care every time we visit them so I have said our dog can stay in the hall or kitchen but it makes no difference. I do understand that some people dislike pets in the house but they have pet rabbits that they let run around plus she used to be fine about our dog before our grandson was born. I've offered to muzzle our dog if that's her worry but it makes no difference. I don't know how to deal with this as I can't break down the barrier she has put up towards me (I don't think she particularly likes me despite my best efforts ). We feel totally left out. Any advice would be gratefully received.

ninathenana Wed 28-Oct-15 11:09:14

Tricky one, do you not have a friend who would have the dog for a few hours. 40miles is doable in a day. Or maybe a neighbour could pop in a couple of times to see to your dog.
Failing that, the only solution I can think of is if you both drive is for you and DH to take turns visiting DS family. Not ideal I know, and it's a shame you can't all be together. Would they not visit you ? Her house her rules I'm afraid.

Nonnie Wed 28-Oct-15 11:23:04

Why can't you leave the dog in the car for a while when you visit and take it in turns to walk him? There are some diseases children can catch from dogs which might be what is worrying her. I think one causes blindness.

It is normal for a young mum to be over protective and she might well feel you are putting your dog before her child.

Has she been diagnosed with OCD or is it just that you think she is? If she has then she needs help and support.

imo you could be more understanding.

tanith Wed 28-Oct-15 11:31:19

Sorry if this sounds harsh but her house/child her rules, surely seeing your grandchild takes priority over the dog . Find a way to go and see them lots of suggestions above.

felice Wed 28-Oct-15 11:43:41

DD and SILs best friends have two little dogs, nice enough but not used to children.
When DGS visits them the dogs go to visit friends Mother and they do not bring them to visit here, or take them with them when they take DGS out.
The safety and welfare of the child comes first.
Even the most placid dog can become nervous around a crawling or toddling child.

Luckygirl Wed 28-Oct-15 11:56:22

It is you who is putting up the barrier Frannyannie by insisting on taking your dog. She is quite right to state her own house rules. If you want to see your GC then you must play by her house rules. Are you really prepared to let a dog come between you and time with your GC? If you feel "left out" then it is your choice and your doing.

You are going to have to choose what is most important to you: dog or GC.

This is a non-problem - you are creating a problem where none needs to be.

I say no to anyone who wants to visit here with a dog. Our house, our rules.

Luckygirl Wed 28-Oct-15 11:57:39

And referring back to your title: you do not have to "understand" your son's girlfriend, you just have to respect her views.

OlderNoWiser Wed 28-Oct-15 12:02:03

We are a "doggy" family with three of our own and my son and DIL have two, so I totally understand that you would like your dog to be accepted as part of the family, but even given the fact that we love our dogs to bits we bought indoor crates/cages for them to use when the grandchildren were very young, as accidents do happen and one can never tell how a dog might react in a new, unproven situation.
Putting the dogs in their cages initially when the children were around allowed everybody to get used to each other and was for the protection of the children as well as the dogs, as any dog who harms a child, for whatever reason, would have to be put down, and we did not want this to happen.
They are all now as thick as thieves and even our Rottweiler is hugely tolerant of the tiniest child (not that I would ever leave her alone with one despite this), so maybe this is the way forward and you could suggest to your DIL that you bring a crate for the dog next time. This may make her feel safe and allow you to take your dog.

Welshwife Wed 28-Oct-15 12:04:30

In with the OP is also the old chestnut of the other grandparents and the time they spend with the child. There is a distance factor involved here as well as the other parents being the maternal grandparents. I think this is a very common and in some ways an understandable thing - go with the flow - be reasonable and as helpful as you can - it does no good at all to let any resentment build up or you become the losers - and in a position you do not wish to be. I understand that everyone who has a dog thinks they are part of the family and think they should always be included but it is still an animal and they can be unpredictable. The mother's choice and I agree with her - just imagine how you would feel if the dog did hurt the child in anyway.

whenim64 Wed 28-Oct-15 12:41:48

I love my dog but don't take her on family visits unless there's an outing like a picnic in the countryside or a visit to the beach. I'm doing a 40 mile family visit tomorrow, allowing 45 minutes each way and a couple of hours at their house. Easily do-able wth plenty of time to spare in case of traffic hold-ups. My dog will have had her walk and be ready to settle down whilst I'm out.

Frannyannie you could surely manage the trip, even if you only had an hour with them?

rosesarered Wed 28-Oct-15 12:47:23

Agree with the last two posts.

Luckygirl Wed 28-Oct-15 12:50:16

TBH I am mind-boggled by this query! shock

The sheer arrogance of assuming that there must be something wrong with the girl because she does not want your dog in HER house with her new baby; and accusing HER of putting up barriers and not liking you, when you so obviously do not show respect for her opinions - who can blame the poor girl for not liking you?

And if she sees more of her own parents, it might not simply be geographical, but because they treat her with respect.

You really are getting off on the wrong foot here and you will reap the rewards of this folly, unless you rethink before it is too late.

And, whatever you do, do not sound off to your son - they have enough on their plates at the moment and you must not fuel any relationship problems they may be having as new parents. Your needs are irrelevant.

Time for a bit of heart-searching I think if you want to be a part of the new family in the future.

Anya Wed 28-Oct-15 12:51:08

We take our dog with us on visits to dog-friendly houses. If this is a day visit then dog ought to be OK for a few hours left alone surely? Is your dog of a size it can use a cat flap perhaps?

As this is likely to be a long term problem you need to find a more permanent solution and the best is a friend who is willing to have pooch stay over for the odd night or so. You don't have to pay them, just invite them round for a meal as a thank you.

Anya Wed 28-Oct-15 12:52:52

PS perhaps a friend who has a dog that also needs a sleepover occasionally so you can help each other out?

loopylou Wed 28-Oct-15 12:59:45

thlconfused
Why does your dog have to go with you, when clearly your DDIL and DS don't want it there?
Trying to persist in a 'the dog comes too' stance is quite frankly ridiculous- as is laying the blame on your DDIL.

40 miles is hardly any distance, easily done in an hour or so, surely the dog could stay behind or is it a highly indulged pooch ?

I don't blame your DDIL one little bit; you're in danger of cutting your nose off to spite your face.

Luckygirl Wed 28-Oct-15 13:17:06

Hear, hear!

TriciaF Wed 28-Oct-15 14:19:43

I'm feeling rather guilty reading this, because I used to be a person who didn't like dogs. At one time we lived in the same town as second son and his wife, and they had 3 greyhounds, which I asked them not to bring when they came round for a meal etc.
We had a very small house and hardly any garden at the time. It didn't cause a family breakup.
Since we've now got a lovely dog ourselves, and a bigger house, I don't mind other people's dogs now.

TriciaF Wed 28-Oct-15 14:22:12

ps So Frannyannie, I agree with those people who say, try to find someone to care for your dog while you visit, and the girlfriend might change in time.

Frannyannie Wed 28-Oct-15 14:45:23

Don't you feel guilty TriciaF, I'm the one feeling guilty because I can see I come across as an arrogant, self-centred person in my post. That was never my intention but as a dog owner it is very easy to think that everyone loves dogs but I accept that is not always the way it is. Yes, I guess my dog is indulged because he's a rescue who had a bad start in life. With the kids grown I spend my days with him and in my mind he can do no wrong, but reading your comments has certainly made me sit up and take notice and look at things from another perspective. I'll follow advice and make every effort to see my grandson and build bridges before it's too late. Thanks everyone.

tanith Wed 28-Oct-15 14:55:44

Well said Frannyannie its nice that someone actually accepts the advice given in the spirit that it was intended and that we did make you 'sit up and take notice'. I hope you have a lovely relationship with your son, dil and new grandchild and maybe eventually even the dog may be included.

LullyDully Wed 28-Oct-15 15:28:30

Not everyone is comfortable with dogs. That is a fact. My DH dislikes them and would not invite anyone round with a dog. I'm not keen on dogs to be honest. Don't mind the soft old ones who sit in a corner but I am very uncomfortable with dogs that jump on me and lick me.

I think she is obviously uncomfortable too.

Luckygirl Wed 28-Oct-15 16:14:48

Frannyannie I take my hat off to you for being able to listen to another point of view and act on it. That is not always easy to do. Respect.

Go and build those bridges and set up a happy relationship with your son and his little family - I send you every good wish for the future.

Alea Wed 28-Oct-15 16:47:01

No one is "foggier" than me, but I would never dream of taken NT a dog with us on daily visits. I am happy to have my "grand dog" here as I know what a baby substitute he is for DD ( as yet) and also it is nice for him to get out of London to the country and a garden he can career around, but do not encourage Sis in law to bring her terrier as frankly Grace would be miserable. When it involves overnight, I would put my dog in kennels, although would love to find an alternative, but I can't understand why so many people insist on taking their dogs around with them!!
Leave him on the car with someone checking on him or walking him at intervals if you must, but you have to respect your DIL's wishes about her own house!
PS if they have free running rabbits, all the more reason NOT to take a dog!!shock

Alea Wed 28-Oct-15 16:48:01

While the first to admit to being "foggy", I did of course mean DOGGIER!! grin

Alea Wed 28-Oct-15 16:52:32

Bloody iPad really has an inventive turn of phrase.
"Taking " not "taken NT", in the car (not on) etc etc!! blush