Continued support and fun aspects too of rebuilding lives after estrangement can't believe 4 years and we still here to offer help, friendship and support.

Thanks sparklygran trying not to keep getting upset just enjoying little time have left??with my precious little girl.

Enjoy those treats sound good!

I just got in from seeing my dear hairdresser and beyond cute newborn! It was sooo lovely he is the prettiest little baby boy!

How amazing that she did my hair too! Xxx

Thinking of you Celeb

SparklyGrandma - getting back to your Garden Party Hat dilemma - it might be worth finding out what sort of hat the mother of the bride is wearing. Personally I couldn`t care less what anyone else wears at my daughter`s wedding but I was recently told that the MOB MUST wear the biggest hat! If the MOB at your wedding is a particularly sensitive soul you wouldn`t want to be accused of upstaging her. (Weddings do seem to be occasions when people take offence at the slightest thing!)

So sorry about Rosie, Celeb. Thinking of you.

Good point eddiecat78 I will ask her as it is the wedding of one of my best friends son.

I wouldn't want to stand on any toes...

Finished the rum and raisin, getting ready to go to church and all mothers in this evenings service get a tiny bouquet. Since I wont be hearing from my estDS its a nice thing to experience today.

I am sure you all know why that is.....

Hope you have all had a good day despite our estrangements. So sorry about little Rosie, all the time with her extra precious Celeb. You all sound upbeat and busy, I have had a few days away and saw my son and grandchildren today. Wish I could see them every week, it would help so much,however, know others have children abroad so I do sound greedy and make the best of the time I do have. After all this time on my own I should be used to it.
Have a good week ahead and ? To all.

'Another one bites the dust'; mothers day that is. Hope you are all feeling OK today and yesterday wasn't too much of a trial.

I rather enjoyed myselfeven though my mum didn't come over for the lunch I'd cooked for us all; it was her favourite too. My poor bro turned up on his own and took back with him the card and beautiful orchid I'd bought her, which I was very tempted to keep for myself. Those of you who've known me for some time now will remember that we don't have a good record as far as mothers day goes.

Mr. S. came home from work on Saturday with some lovelyand a beautiful arrangement was delivered yesterday morning from DS in Ausso all in all a good day.

Hope your enjoyed your ice cream andSparklygrandma, was it a big tub? did you eat all of it?

Your hairdresser seems to be on top of things Celeb, doing your hair so soon after having her baby. I love babies and could quite easily eat a whole one. Hope little Rosie's OK bless herfor you and Mr. C.

I've got an electrician calling round this afternoon to see about fitting some external power points so we can have our water features on the roof terrace; Mr. S. will be pleased.

Thank you Luckylegs9 and ...Smileless2012 well is a litre tub a big tub? Eaten over 2 days?

It got me through Mothering Sunday in any case...

We hopefully survived it and the sun and primroses are out here, so have the best week you can everyone...

Have just been reading the statement from the Mum of the man who committed the terrible crimes in London last week - she is obviously devastated. She had been estranged from him since 2003 when he was first imprisoned. How on earth does someone come to terms with a situation like this? I daresay his Mum will be blamed as we seem to be held responsible for everything these days.

Morning Girls

Eddiecat Don't think anyone could put any blame on the mother, she hadn't seen him for 13/14yrs.

Glad to hear those that enjoyed 'Mothering Sunday' I did my 2 classes and naturally everyone would say to me "enjoy your mother's day with your AC" all smiles. I did have a nice afternoon/evening with my ND,babyGD & family. We had a BBQ, bit cold outside, but my s.i.l is such a joker, I was telling them about the wonderful birds in India, when a 'nightingale' started to sing, such a beautiful song for quite a while, then turned into a more exotic bird song, I then realized my s.i.l had set me up with his special effects box

Although I did have a good mother's day, it was of course also full of sadness for the loss of my once beloved D&S and my precious GC, I did have to 'bite the bullet' so to speak, as I left to celebrate the day, as I was feeling depressed

Hope Rosie is doing good today Celebgran

for those mums that didn't get any [actually I didn't, got a lovely card & present though Put some lovely spring flowers on my mother's resting place, which was awash with flowers & bird song!

Ohngood hear you managed bit bullet and enjoy day yogagirl

Thanks Rosie seems quite perky since we got back, seeing senior vet tomorrow

Feel sick with worry over it but realise got to be strong,

Saw my lovely gp yesterday she wants me take to bit easier ?As reckons I had bad bout gasto enteritis must admit do feel drained, yet more medicine counteract pain relief effects and just take. Sample in not pleasant ?

Want be well enough see myndear son Friday,

????for us all,

Nutcase forgot to say that dh gave me wonderful Mother's Day and my dear son rang early and. Send flowers and card, and then dh took. ME away for night It was fabulous and did us power of good.

I didn't cry once for a daughter who doesn't care if we live or die,

However I did cry a river for my dear little Rosie.
As long as she not in Pain I hope we have her Lot longer.

Smilelss did PM you sorry your mum didn't show butnglad brother did and your lovely son from oz delivered the goods,

We are blessed if we have one child who cares,

Sparklyngran ??as long as it helped and you enjoyed the ice Cream!

Bonus of being poorly mynweight loss is now 8lb. Yippee.

Well done on being brave on Mother's day Celebgran Little Rosie could have another few years yet you know, so fingers crossed for her & you

Well I hope you're right Yogagirl about his mother not being blamed but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm with eddiecat mothers seem to get the blame for most things especially when an AC hs made a mess of things and wont take responsibility.

Sounds like you had a lovely Mother's Day, how lovely to have spent it with your DD and lovely GD. Your s.i.l. sounds right character; it made mewhen you said he'd teased you with his special effects box.

That's the most important thing Celeb, Rosie's quality of life. I hope everything goes well with her and you have her for a few more years. not the best way to lose weight but well done.

No tears from me either well actually there were a few but that was when thefrom DS were delivered and they were tears of joy.

I Copied & paste the below for you all to sign:

Joyfully Tue 28-Mar-17 10:51:16
It's so very sad that people can be so heartless and using the control over not allowing grandchildren to see grandparents. The parents don't even consider what they might feel like if it happened to them when their children grow up.

As a therapist I see many women who report the same thing. They come to the conclusion that they have done a good job raising their children, so that's enough, and now it's time to get on with their lives and make the most of it. No use them destroying their own lives through selfish people.

The thing is, when these thoughtless children have a parent who they have estranged themselves from dies, they seem to think they won't feel anything. It is not true from what I have experienced. They often feel dreadful that they did not resolve their issues. But it is their problem and not yours. Do your very best to stop being so sad. Imagine they are in New Zealand and you just don't get to see them, but you wish them well. This is not a platitude, just helpful suggestions that have helped people I see enormously. Hypnotherapy often works faster than CBT by the way. If you can afford to pay privately, then have some sessions. A good therapist will help you feel so much better. If you have time, volunteer to help children in some way. They may not be your grandchildren , but many children need support from the older generation.
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Womble54 Tue 28-Mar-17 11:02:44
No, you don’t ever think it could happen to you, but it happened to me, and I know only too well how much it hurts. One minute you’re playing happily with your grandchild or grandchildren, and the next minute you are painfully banished from their lives, often indefinitely and without any real explanation.
As many of us are all too painfully aware, current UK law provides no automatic legal right of contact between grandparents and grandchildren. If mediation fails or is refused, then the only available option is costly and stressful legal action through the court, which is beyond the means of many grandparents and has no guarantee of success. Delay will count against you.
The odds are therefore stacked against the grandparents, who are often vulnerable, in imperfect health, in no position to fight back, and consequently potential targets for all kinds of bullying and blackmail with the grandchildren used as weapons. The legal position also fails to take into account the wishes of the grandchildren, who may wonder what they have done wrong, that Nanna or Granddad apparently don’t want to see them any more. Is this not emotional cruelty? The problem is huge. Over a million children in the UK today have no contact with their grandparents for one reason or another.
However, following a Parliamentary Lobby Day on 31st January, a national petition, started by Lorraine Bushell from the Hendon Grandparents’ Group, has been launched on the Petition Parliament website. This petition aims to obtain the 100,000 signatures required for the issue to be considered for a parliamentary debate on the right of children to have an ongoing relationship with their grandparents. The link is: -
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/188381
I urge everyone to sign the petition and spread the word. After all, the issue affects so many of us, not just grandparents and potential grandparents, but anyone who has or has ever had a beloved grandparent. I have become a campaigner, recently having started a support group in Worcestershire where I live, and further information can be obtained from the Bristol Grandparents Support Group, who are very good and helpful, and have a website. This situation needs to change - as many of us know from our own experience, grandparents have a priceless contribution to make in the lives of children.

Thank you Yogagirl, is it possible to have a link to the Petition please?

Sparkly

Just google 'Petition Parliament' and the number of the petition and you'll get to the signing screen.

No. Is 188381. Done it for you!

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