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emc2 Mon 04-Sept-17 08:25:04

I would be so grateful if another gransnetter could calm my now ruffled feathers.

My ex husband is now on wife no. 3 and she is called Grandma D (D stands for her name which I won't type in here). This lady and I have have had a difficult relationship. I was wife no. 1 and bore my husband 3 sons. He left when they were 2, 4 and 7 and apart from the first couple of years of separation, when he would see them every other weekend, they did not see him much at all during their childhood apart from the summer holidays or Christmas when they would visit him in whichever part of the world he was working in. I should add that wherever he was working he rang them every week without fail. As soon as was possible I worked part time for financial reasons which was extraordinarily difficult. I hardly ever went out and can truthfully say I poured all my love and energy into bringing up the boys who have done very well. This lady came to two of my sons' graduation days where she tried to take over the proceedings as if they were her sons. From that moment on it has been hard for me. Even at my eldest son's wedding she thought I had snubbed her (I hadn't said hello because I genuinely did not see her) and was told by my ex to apologise to her to stop things escalating. This I did as it was my son's day and I did not want anything to spoil it. Now I have grandchildren. I found out yesterday that D (wife no. 3) had actually asked my DIL what I had wanted to be called and indeed my DIL's mother's wishes. She did not want to step on anyone's toes. So for all this time (grandchildren are now 4, 2 and 2) I have been under the impression that it was D that had insisted on calling herself grandma. My DIL explained to me that she had told D that she was as much a grandma as me. I find this totally upsetting. My DIL struggles with being a lawyer and just 2 children. She is going through a very tough time work-wise at the moment so I am being careful about tackling her though, as a lawyer, I know she can outsmart me on any debate/discussion. Why can't she see that it rankles or that just because her mum doesn't mind, I shouldn't mind. Perhaps I am blowing this all out of proportion but she /D has never had any children.

I have invited all to my impending big birthday at Christmas and am now thinking of cancelling the whole thing.

RedheadedMommy Mon 04-Sept-17 11:18:28

My DDs called my Dhs step dad Grandad because he was. Kids don't care. I hate all of this 'real' and 'blood' talk.
Blood doesn't make you family it makes you related. I have some blood family that I hardly see and some chosen family who i'm in contact with daily. Blood might be thicker than water but I remember when water was there and blood wasn't.

Dont make a big deal out of this. Dont speak to your son or DIL about it.

Bluekitchen192 Mon 04-Sept-17 11:40:15

Interesting thread. Seems to me that your own feelings are the issue here. You feel badly treated by your ex husband. You feel badly treated by his present wife. Then dont invite them to your party. Or disinvite if you have already done so. Release the high moral ground forgiveness. and so on. You aren't there. Say you don't want an atmosphere. Say you aren't comfortable. Say anything you like to blow them off. And see a counsellor to sort out your feelings to your own satisfaction. Good luck.

Starlady Mon 04-Sept-17 12:38:53

Emc2, I gather that you don't feel D should be called "Grandma" the same as you because you put so much more effort into raising your sons and she was never much of a "mum" to them, etc. As a pp said, it must feel as if all your hard work is going unrecognized. I understand how that could hurt.

This isn't about what you did as a mum though or what she didn't do as a step-mum. This is about the gc. As others have said, she's their gm, too, because your ex is their gf. The kids will realize in time that she's not their "blood" gm, if that matters. As they hear stories of their dad's childhood, they will probably figure out, too, that you were more involved with him and his bros than your ex and D. But how they feel about anyone will depend, imo, on their own relationship with that person. So please just enjoy them when you're with them and don't worry about who else is there or what they call them.

In the future, however, I wouldn't invite ex and D to any events they wouldn't ordinarily expect to be at. Why cause yourself upset? It doesn't sound as if you've totally forgiven ex, so please don't try to force it. I can't imagine disinviting anyone, unless they had just done something horrid. But, from now on, please don't invite them to your personal celebrations such as your birthday.

It's not so much about "forgiving," anyhow, imo, as it is about letting go of the past. Kudos to you for having a good life of your own (job, relationship, etc.). Enjoy all that, and again, don't concern yourself so much with ex and D, one way or the other!

Juney64 Mon 04-Sept-17 13:59:07

Names can change for children over the years.

When my sons were very young, they called me mummy. Because I called my mother mum... so did they. They thought that was her name. My mum, of course, loved this and I didn't mind one bit. She and my dad would chuckle when they would take the boys to the shops on their own and they'd address her as mum.

When my oldest son was old enough to understand (before he started school), I explained the whole thing. I then became mum and my mother became Gran. The transition was really easy.

Your GC know who you are so I wouldn't stress.

DotMH1901 Mon 04-Sept-17 14:48:27

I hope I have read this correctly in that you say that your ex husband's current wife did ask your DIL what you and the other 'blood' grandmother wanted to be called. If that is so then clearly she was aware that it might be contentious and was trying not to upset anyone. Quite possibly she thought your DIL had already checked that neither you nor the other Grandma would have any problems in her also being called Grandma. When my daughter was expecting her first baby her m-i-l made it quite clear she expected to be called Grandma. It didn't bother me as I wanted to be called Tanny, like my own gt grandma was (in the event my grandson couldn't manage the T and I became Nanny smile ) It is just a name and I don't think you should tackle your DIL about it but rather let it go as just one of those irritating moments life throws at us. Your grandchildren know who you are I am sure and love you dearly, a fight between yourself and their Mum might just spoil all that for them - and is that risk worth it?

Norah Mon 04-Sept-17 16:09:51

It sounds as if D did attempt to "play nice" by doing as you write "I found out yesterday that D (wife no. 3) had actually asked my DIL what I had wanted to be called and indeed my DIL's mother's wishes. She did not want to step on anyone's toes."

Quite nice, personality issues aside, your DGC have D as a GM, best you accept that extra love to their lives. Children can not have too much love.

Madgran77 Mon 04-Sept-17 16:24:11

Take Bibbitys advice ...this is all about the children not the adults! Actions and experiences are far more important tgan names!

inishowen Mon 04-Sept-17 18:29:21

I know a little boy who calls one granny "granny knit" and the other is "granny". Children seem to sort out their own names for grandparents. I can understand how you feel but try not to sweat the small stuff.

W11girl Mon 04-Sept-17 18:46:43

I am married to a man who has children and grandchildren from his first marriage....his children have never seen me as a step mother, and neither did I...so I see no reason why I should be referred to as Grandma to his grandchildren I am not their grandma and never will be. I am referred to by my first name which suits me fine. So I can understand why your feathers have been ruffled by this 3rd wife assuming the "grandma role".

Coconut Mon 04-Sept-17 22:01:58

Draw the children a family tree on a big chart, so they are aware of who is blood related and who is not. That will help you get it out of your system and clarify things for the children. Extended families are the norm now but when others are insensitive and try to take over it does rankle just a bit !

Bibbity Tue 05-Sept-17 09:29:17

Be very careful about the family tree advice. It is not your place to explain things like that. You don't know what the actual parents are planning.

trisher Tue 05-Sept-17 10:01:42

emc2 I understand perfectly where you are coming from and must say you are so much more understanding and cooperative than I am. Very similar situation but my DSs and my DIL know I want no more than a civil, distant relationship with my ex. They are free to invite him to any things they organise and I will be polite to him and his partner. However I feel no obligation to invite him to anything I am organising. I do think you may be being too nice and perhaps you need to emphasise a bit more the emotional strain this situation has put you under. As for apologising at the wedding my ex wouldn't even dare ask! If you don't want this woman to be called Grandma just say so. There is no reason why you should have to keep your opinion quiet. It doesn't mean that she won't be called Grandma D and you may just have to accept that, but it will make everyone aware of your feelings and it might make things better in future. Try saying how you feel calmly and quietly and then let it go. You will feel better for speaking out and not bottling your feelings up Hope things get better.

Imperfect27 Wed 06-Sept-17 12:59:49

emc2 before and for a little time after my first GC arrived, I quietly fretted about what I should be called and how he would sort out the complexities of our 'blended' family. At first, I thought 'titles' for bloodline - as opposed to step-parents - was probably 'right' and I was rather sad right from the off because SIL's mother was known by the name I would have wanted. My GC has ... two nannies, 2 granddads (my ex is now married to a man) and a grandpa (SIL's father) - and my own DH who just prefers to be called by his first name. Ex H's husband wants to be called granddad too - didn't ask, just assumed the title. My DD and SIL were a bit disgruntled, but over time it has become a non-issue.

Initially, it did evoke a sense of hurt in me - something to do with being reminded that family expectations were broken for me along the line, but I have learned it just doesn't matter. DGC is building different relationships with each of us - and it really is a case of simply loving and being loved back - so uncomplicated from a child's perspective!

As others have said, explanations as to who is who in any family -blended or not - can come later - I feel my GC is just blessed to have so many people to love him.

I think my angst also came out of a source of anxiety - the desire to be a good grandparent and to build a significant bond - and to be recognised as 'special' to him - well, that has just happened by being around him.

True, the conversation where DD and I sat with him and saw dawning understanding as we explained that I am his 'mummy's mummy' was lovely for me.

However, I grew up without grandmothers and only one granddad interested enough to make a fuss of me, but he also died when I was young, so the idea of being a grandparent for me had little meaning until I saw what a wonderful job of it my own parents made.

Didn't mean to be so longwinded - but I do feel you need to try to let the pain go and just enjoy being grandparent in your own way. You will simply be loved for being you.

paddyann Wed 06-Sept-17 14:13:40

at the end of the day its only a name ,its the relationship you have with your GC that will count.Dont let it blight that relationship,just enjoy what you are lucky enough to have

Sharina Sun 24-Oct-21 10:38:48

Unless someone is trying to hurt you, don’t take offence. It’s not worth the waves of ill feeling. Be grateful that she brings affection into your family and not disharmony. Of course she’s not you. But grandchildren will not be able to understand. It’s hard being the child of divorced parents. You never get over it. I was such a child and have been a single mother too. I don’t know what my grandchildren call my exes partner. Quite frankly, he was useless but thanks to her, he’s a better person. Let it go. Be the one they love, not the one who makes dramas

Lucca Sun 24-Oct-21 10:41:05

Thread is 4 years old !!!

deedee6969 Sun 24-Oct-21 19:44:16

I'm Nana to my GC and if im called Mammar or Gran etc by anyone they will tell them "not Mammar it's Nana" ?. You are their "real" grandparent so you have been a constant in their lives and your grandparent name will already be established by your GC. Don't worry about D. What they call her is irrelevant. Chill and enjoy your lovely GC x