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PLEASE help me get on with my MIL!

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Nella8 Mon 15-Oct-18 19:10:37

Hi! I’m the daughter in law in this case, and I’m looking for advice from the women who will know best.
I struggle with my mother in law. She is a genuinely nice person, there isn’t a mean bone in her body, but she’s very vague and silly, doesn’t think before she speaks, never finishes a sentence, and swings between acting like a doddery old lady and a helpless wee girl (she’s only 62). She messages and texts constantly telling me how lovely I am and how great I’m doing as a new mum and how much she loves and misses me, which should be lovely! But I just CANNOT STAND IT. I feel like she’s trying to force a relationship unnaturally, and she frequently seems to compete with my own mum for my time and affection. It feels very scripted and insincere and makes me feel shy and awkward and I just want to avoid her completely! However, I have a four month old son who I want to have a great relationship with all his grandparents, so I really don’t want to damage my (horribly intense) relationship with her. Is there anyway I can get her to back off a bit with the suffocating affection without hurting her feelings? I am aware that I am lucky to have such a nice mother in law, but I just can’t fake love for someone I don’t really feel a connection with! She is physically very affectionate as well which I hate, I’m not massively into grown women stroking my hair like a dog. How do I deal with this without causing hurt or damage?

sazz1 Tue 16-Oct-18 11:07:29

Has she got a daughter? If not perhaps she sees you as a daughter she never had. Best to get into routine visiting e.g. every Saturday for 2 hrs or fortnightly. Reply to texts once on an evening or you will keep it going.

chrissyh Tue 16-Oct-18 11:10:47

Nella8 don't worry, there is always somebody who makes a snide remark. I notice your post was 19.10 so there would be a problem if a 4 month old isn't in bed and asleep and you didn't have some time for yourself. Sorry no advise but the hair stroking would get to me too. Just try not to sit near enough for her to stroke your hair.

Happilyretired123 Tue 16-Oct-18 11:14:07

It sounds as though she is a bit OTT and possibly she is overdoing it in her efforts to build a relationship with you. I am a mum in law and granny and much as I love my family 2 weeks under the same roof would be too much! You sound like a lovely daughter in law so don’t feel guilty about setting boundaries with texts,messages and visits. Maybe shorter visits. There is some good advice on here. My mother in law was lovely and helped out a lot when our 4 children were young-I found it got easier as the children got older and she could play with them/take them out and the focus of her attention may well shift in future from you?
Maybe let your OH do more of the updating/texting etc!
Good luck!

Corkie91 Tue 16-Oct-18 11:20:28

Think your being too touchy be lucky with what you have.

Cabbie21 Tue 16-Oct-18 11:20:44

Good grief! I am thankful l had my children before the days of endless texting, Skyping etc. A weekly phone call was all we had with both sets of parents, then we went to see them for a couple of days, four at most, about six times a year. We all got on well, but we were all busy people getting on with our own lives.
I can only imagine how irritating I would find your MIL’s behaviour. Try not to check your phone so often, and reply once a day at most. Can she stay in a B and B when she visits? Let your DH keep her occupied?

muffinthemoo Tue 16-Oct-18 11:25:10

Hair strokers shock confused

I attract them as well and also can’t stand it. Best advice I have is to tie your hair up or back around her if she’s a persistent stroker. It usually works as a gentle deterrent.

I had a boss once who I loved dearly but the amount of time she spent with her hands in my hair was super offputting.

BonnieBlooming Tue 16-Oct-18 11:30:23

I can so understand why this is a bit wearing but my mil was the opposite. When she came to visit she would 'inspect my house and tell me what I was doing wrong. She was critical of my weight, what I wore and the fact that I didn't home bake our buns and biscuits! She never showed me any affection or even indicated that she liked me, although at her funeral her neighbour told me that she did. We mils walk a bit of a tightrope and we don't always get it right but mostly we mean well.

David1968 Tue 16-Oct-18 11:42:04

I'm the mother of a son, (only child) and when we visit him and his family (abroad), generally there's no way that DH and I will stay for more than a few days without going somewhere else to give us all a break. (The exception was when DGC2 was born and we were ASKED to stay for support.) If you're all living in the UK, it seems to me that two weeks is far too long for a visit - unless you (Nella8) really want and ask for this. (Your post here would indicate otherwise!) Can the visits be shorter? The other issue as that perhaps your other half could say something to his mum?

Acciaccatura Tue 16-Oct-18 11:46:56

My daughter is always complaining about the lengthy texts her mil sends. Mil lives nearby to my daughter whereas I am 10000 miles away. I tell my daughter that mil's only crime is that she is not me!! Although my daughter understands this, it does not stop the irritation.

Bridgeit Tue 16-Oct-18 12:02:29

Everything Pecs has said, good luck

quizqueen Tue 16-Oct-18 12:15:51

I think having someone who irritated me in my home for two weeks is more than I would be happy with so I would cut that down to one week and then to just a long weekend over a period of time and leave it to your partner to do more of the entertaining with her.

I don't expect my own daughters to send daily updates so again cut that down to a few times a week. If she is too touchy feely then just tell her you are not the sort of person who likes to do that with other women and if she takes no notice then your partner must tell her it makes you uncomfortable and it must stop.

If there is less pressure to have such frequent contact, I think you will be able to cope with this relative better. By responding to her daily contacts and having them to stay so often and for so long, you have encouraged her to think it is normal and will continue.

blue60 Tue 16-Oct-18 12:29:38

I think it's a case of you putting some distance between you and deciding when you want or are able to make contact. For example, don't answer texts immediately (you don't even have to read them, just delete); not being available so often; etc.

Putting some distance between you may help so that when you DO meet up or read a text it's not so irritating as you've had a break from it and you are the one in control of how much time you can cope with.

When stroking your hair, politely say you'd rather she didn't do that as it makes you feel uncomfortable. She probably thinks you like it as she doesn't know you don't. Any thoughtful person will discontinue out of respect and just accept without causing a fuss or bad feeling.

As far as her 'silly' behaviour goes, try to ignore it as you would with a child. It could be a case of attention seeking and wanting your approval but it's having the opposite effect.

We are all different people, and we get on with some better than others. Acknowledge how you feel, it's not wrong to do that.

trisher Tue 16-Oct-18 12:32:34

Nella8 firstly about the "little girl""doddery old lady" behaviour. Sadly in the past some women managed their lives best by behaving like a little girl, particularly around men. It sounds as if your MIL is one of those and is now struggling with getting older. It isn't something that happens these days and if you haven't experienced it before it can be strange but if that's been her life she won't be changing now. But don't think that means she can't cope and mange things she can. It's hard work having a new baby and however well you are coping you will still be quite sensitive to things. Try thinking about the future and directing your MIL's affections and caresses from you to your baby is a great idea. If she visits give her him to hold a lot. As for the messaging as he gets older you could set up Skype with her and let her watch him playing. She's obviously a bit overwhelmed with her new GC and just wants you to know how grateful she is to you. If you can work through it she could be a great help in the future. Good luck!

Jaycee5 Tue 16-Oct-18 12:37:43

She sounds lonely and a bit over excited. I think you have to just try to put some distance, as people have said with the texts etc. Don't answer too frequently or with much detail. If someone other than a partner stroked my hair I would probably automatically recoil which would be upsetting so you have done well not to do that but I think that you can only physically move away from it.
A lot depends on the details, like whether she turns up unexpectedly or not. If she does you could say that you are just going out.
I don't think that you should try to discuss it with her as a problem as it will just sound to her as if you don't like her. There's no perfect solution but you will find it easier when you are not as tired as you are with a new baby and when her excitement has waned a bit.

granfromafar Tue 16-Oct-18 12:37:49

Plenty of good advice on here already so won't add to it. Was wondering if your MIL is a gransnetter as she might read this and identity herself. That could solve the problem! Be careful what you post!

moggie57 Tue 16-Oct-18 12:41:57

when she next strokes your hair , say please dont do that. ask her would she like a cat? but it is a sign of affection. she's treating you like a child.. and at her age .same as as me nearly we tend to go a bit over the top with trying to get some attention.not saying everyone does ,but maybe she feels left out....maybe she could help with certain jobs like gardening...make her feel wanted ...make her think she wanted as much as your own mum ,maybe she feels she's being pushed out....

UsedtobeGinger Tue 16-Oct-18 12:49:23

Tell her you've got nits!
Seriously, she doesn't seem to be able to read people very well.
I have one DD who loves cuddles and hair stroking, the other one doesn't, so I don't, but I know she loves me just as much.
Never tried stroking my SiL's hair, I don't think he'd be impressed!

lizzypopbottle Tue 16-Oct-18 13:01:52

My mother-in-law was a lovely, sensible woman but she did irritate me in one specific way, particularly at the beginning of our relationship. I'd tell her about something and then she'd ask me to tell her about that very thing! Eventually, I realised that was just something she did. I accepted it, relaxed about it, expected it and was much happier simply repeating what I'd just said. Occasionally, she'd realise and say, "Oh Liz, I'm sorry! You just told me that, didn't you?"

Maybe I'm boring and she just switched off. Maybe I have a soothing voice and she switched off to it. Whatever! As I got older, I became more patient.

Anyway, there might be aspects of your mother-in-law's behaviour that you can convince yourself to accept and relax about. I'd go along with others' suggestions about not responding to texts. The hair stroking, however, would make me cringe! I don't like my hair or face being stroked. You could put your hair up, if it's long, or cover it with a scarf or cap or use a hair masque and leave it on when she visits.

Of course you could just lay down some ground rules with a smile e.g. Two hug rule: arriving and leaving. You could explain that too much physical affection from anyone, not just her, makes you uncomfortable.

Aepgirl Tue 16-Oct-18 13:04:56

I think you are being a bit hard on your MIL. She clearly needs to have contact with you and her grandchild. Is your DH her only child? If so perhaps she misses contact with her son. If she has other SILs or DILs perhaps you could ask them how she treats them. Please don't cut yourself off from her completely.

Sulis Tue 16-Oct-18 13:11:16

Wow! This made me realised just how irritating I must have been! My DIL just stopped replying to me and went rather cold! So in time I learned to interpret the message!!!!!!

Pat1949 Tue 16-Oct-18 13:31:57

I do feel for you, quite a delicate situation. I’m not a touchy feely person and find it embarrassing. I also get embarrassed at compliments and wish peope wouldn’t. Could you not turn it on yourself and tell her it’s a fault in you that you can’t bear being touchy feely and you find all the praise embarassing. I know it’s a bit of a cop out and perhaps you have more back bone than I did when I was younger but at least it would go some way to getting her to back off without upsetting her too much.

endre123 Tue 16-Oct-18 13:36:20

My m-I-l doted over me as she never had a daughter, bought me gifts things she never had the excuse to buy before, fawned over me. When the babies arrived she was over protective but in a loving way. At the time I sometimes felt it was claustrophobic but she would ask "I hope you don't mind, I never had a daughter and now I'm sharing you!" She had such a big heart, a rare person who put others before herself. That generation of women never had the same academic opportunities as mine and were expected to be subservient to their husbands. Sadly she passed suddenly before her grand children could really get to know her.

Grandpa remarried someone who was cold, did not do hugs, did not like children but expected family to fall in with her plans. It was her way. It was hard because I felt I had to remind the children their real grandma was very different.

I miss her. But I don't miss her son!

grandtanteJE65 Tue 16-Oct-18 13:41:04

Is your MIL on her own, or do you have a FIL as well? I'm asking because never finishing sentences is the sort of bad habit that people can get into when living alone.

Pull her up when she does this, by asking her nicely what she was going to say. I had to do this with my own mother when she was some years older than your MIL and it did work.

Tell her too that you feel so guilty when you keep getting texts that you don't have time to reply to and ask her to accept that you will get round to answering her at such- and-such a time. Work out beforehand when in the course of the day (if you want to answer her every day) or in the week that suits you to text her.

Ask her not to touch your hair as it annoys you. We all have our likes and dislikes about these things.

Curlywhirly Tue 16-Oct-18 13:49:33

Well you sound like a lovely DIL and likewise your MIL! These days, for a MIL and DIL to be friends seems to be unusual. She sounds a little OTT, but as you say her heart is in the right place, I would just focus on her good points and try and make allowances for her bad ones. I personally wouldn't say anything negative (don't stroke my hair, text so much etc), I wouldn't like to risk upsetting her; she's pretty harmless and yes, she sounds like she can be annoying at times, but so can we all. My MIL was a complete horror, unliked by her own children, I would have swapped her for yours in a heartbeat.

Newbiedoobie Tue 16-Oct-18 13:59:19

I find it so odd that everyone thinks the best idea is to reduce time spent with family. Just see them when you want to and not very often. I grew up seeing a lot of extended family, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins all the time. Some we had to travel to, others we walked to, there was never any set time imposed when you could or couldn’t visit. I took my own children to visit family often and they’ve grown up with a big support network. It’s ok to want to spend time only with your other half and your own kids, but if you need help, then it’s great to have lots of people who you can rely on. This is no moan about the OP as I think she is a nice person who doesn’t want to upset anyone, but a lot of people seem to only view things from their own point of view, what they want, not taking into account the joy they give to a grandparent who is wanted not just tolerated, the solid and long standing relationships you build with cousins or an older aunt or uncle who feels included in the family, etc