The Duchess of Sussex and her father

mcem I was not "criticising" posters - my post was aimed at Anniebach and Oldwoman neither of whom appear to have been upset by it. If my little joke did offend someone then I apologise.

sunseeker I certaintly wasn’t upset ?

I wasn't upset either (walks away sobbing quietly to herself)

what ever is going on i think William looks troubled , he is 36, yet looks middle aged

I think while Will was around Harry always had a confidant and a brother as a friend. Even when he married Kate they seemed a happy, friendly threesome. Kate and Harry seemed very relaxed together too. Yes, to onlookers Will seems to be fast becoming more like his serious father. Charles has always seemed quite formal.

The press suggest a rift between the brothers. In truth I imagine William becoming a father and spending more time at home with Kate changed his outlook. Harry sought a wife, and found one.

I have no idea if Will and Kate enjoy Meghan's company but I imagine her American influences, feminist traits, confidence and intelligence might have taken some getting used to in royal circles. I doubt very much if she will be cowed by royal protocol. It could be a stumbling block if she doesn't accept the restrictive gilded cage of royalty. Middle class British Kate may have adapted more easily,

Now Harry and his wife are moving away, having a child of their own and leading life away from the Windsor heirs. it happens to most families - distance between siblings once they marry. I hope the brothers retain their closeness. Most mothers/fathers hope for that for their own children as they grow up.

I have 2 sisters in law. One I would be happy to see on a daily basis, the other I can be friendly to if I only see her occasionally! I am still close to my brothers! All families have different ways of handling relationships and distance and different stages that kids are at can make it difficult to maintain close /regular get togethers. It seems that some people are seeking out rifts and troubles where none may exist. Possibly just a man is realising he has limited future choices whereas his younger brother has wider horizons! We might all be a bit pissed off at that!

Day6, confidence yes, one would need that to become a tv
Actress, intellegence ? There are intelligent women in the royal family, think the difference is Americans can talk the talk, and Kate is as you say middle class British .

Also Kate has to prepare for her furture role as queen consort and mother of a heir to the throne , she can’t put herself to the fore as does her sister in law . I don’t see that as being cowed , it is just accepting what goes with the job.

William has learned from a young age what goes with the job too.

Their wealth doesn’t trouble me, the thought of a life time of duty ? No thank you

Their wealth doesn’t trouble me, the thought of a life time of duty ? No thank you

A lifetime of duty in a goldfish bowl...albeit a large one. Nope, not for me either. All that protocol would drive me insane.

Starting a sentence with ‘so’ is using it as an adverb? ?

I’d have thought it might perhaps be a coordinating conjunction?

#justsaying

Oh please Anja have you had a sense of humour by-pass!

Starting a sentence with ‘so’ is so ‘now’ & down with the dudes!
‘Right on ‘ ladies especially those who were ‘ hey man’ ing it in the 60 ?

So any successful writer will know that you can throw away many of the restrictive grammar rules and still write an excellent novel!

OW lighten up. Think of tongue in cheek ? This thread is just going round in circles so (!) just poking the ? nest with a stick, for fun.

coordinating conjunctions - how terrifying. Is that one of Michael Gove's things that primary school children have to learn now Anja? What is a coordinating conjunction please?

Oh Annie We ALL have lifetimes of duty ,dont we.We have responsibilities to parents and partners and children and jobs AND we have to make a living and put a roof over heads and food on a table EVERY day ,None of us gets paid a fraction of what they get for actually working longer hours, harder work and still having all the family responsibility at the end of it And no frequent paid for holidays masquerading as royal tours !.I'm sorry I just dont "get" how anyone thinks this system is in any way shape or form RIGHT in the 21st century .I dont know anyone who does think the Monarchy should still exist or who gives a toss about them except when we hear how much they cost

What is a coordinating conjunction please?
Is it where 3 lines of traffic are merging into 2 and then into 1? Like on the M6 heading north?

paddyanne your posts express not just you are a republican but you hold such hatred for this family.

I do not see my life as a daughter, wife, mother , employee as duty.

I was thinking the same thing as you about duty, paddyann.
I see it as my duty to look after my family, earn a living and be a law abiding citizen. There have been occasions in my life when I could have gone my own way but duty, especially to my family, always came first. Therefore, in that respect we are on equal terms with the RF in that we all have a lifetime of duties to perform. Some of them we will enjoy and others we will not.
The difference is in the scale. We are merely the talk of the steamie with what we wear, who we marry and how we behave. Every man and his dog thinks that the RF is their business and can comment with intimate knowledge on their motivation, choices and qualities with little reference to the difference between fact and opinion.
The RF family may not have chosen their birthright but have any of us? We just get on with things.

If we think of the queens father , the poor man never thought he would be king, poor health. Painfully shy, a stammer, in an arranged marriage to a woman who had been intended as wife for his brother . He is next in line so becomes king, not too long before this country was at war, dies 5 years after the end of the war. No preparation to be king .

This was duty .

What is a coordinating conjunction please?
Is it a belt or scarf that matches your shoes & handbag? I expect the senior royals will have dressers who sort their co- ordinating accessories to wear in conjunction with their outfits.

And, but, for, nor, or, so, and yet—these are the seven coordinating conjunctions. To remember all seven, you might want to learn one of these acronyms: FANBOYS, YAFNOBS, or FONYBAS.

I expect the Royals use YAFNOBS when talking about the riffraff and FONYBAS when coordinating underwear. FANBOYS I couldn’t possibly comment.

Ahhh joining words ?

I am not speculating on what is written in the press but on facts .
It was George V who married his brother's fiancee, Princess May of Teck, later Queen Mary. She was previously engaged to his older brother, Prince Albert, died 1892, son of Edward VII .
George VI proposed to Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon three times before she accepted him; it was not an arranged marriage. His family believed she was the making of him.