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Daughters cold house at Christmas

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Barmeyoldbat Sun 20-Oct-19 22:44:47

Got a problem and just don't know what to do about it.
As I have said in many threads, I have a daughter, disabled, medical conditions and learning difficulties. She lives with her beloved cat on her own since her husband died four years ago. Care comes in three times a day and are smashing.
She doesn't really have any friends and doesn't socialise much.

My problem is Christmas, she won't come to us even bringing the cat and I am reluctant to go to her house for Christmas as she just will not have the heating on. She can certainly afford it so that is not the reason. I, and others cannot get a sensible answer from her about the heating and today when we visited it was cold, so goodness knows what it will be like at Christmas. I have looked at going out for Christmas Day Lunch but it would mean travelling on after I have arrived at her house, 54 miles cross country and then have to get home afterwards. All to much. She said she will have Christmas on her own and doesn't care. Other years she has had different carers and they either took her out to lunch with a few others or she went to their centre. But that has all gone now.

I will feel so guilty and upset on Christmas Day thinking of her on her own in the cold house, even if its choice. Any suggestions advice.

Gonegirl Thu 24-Oct-19 10:53:23

Anyone who uses the term " back off" is too young to be on Gransnet.

Callistemon Thu 24-Oct-19 10:58:14

It is worrying when someone you care for can be so stubborn; my MIL's house was always freezing cold and I was forced to shorten a visit there one winter as young DD and I were chilled to the bone but MIL never seemed to feel it.
She did eventually have central heating installed and used it but she would have been well into her 80s by then.

I'm glad you've got Christmas lunch sorted, BoB but, quite honestly, I don't know what the answer is to allay your DD's anxieties, unless using the cat as a lever would help. Cats do seek warmth, they like sitting in those fluffy 'nests' which you can attach to radiators. Perhaps you could buy one of those for the cat's Christmas present?

FarNorth Thu 24-Oct-19 11:45:55

Apologies if this has already been said Barmy, but does your daughter understand that she has plenty of money?

As she is poor with numbers, have you explained to her that e.g. her monthly income is more than her outgoings, or whatever she would understand?

I'm glad Xmas is sorted anyway.

Gonegirl Thu 24-Oct-19 11:55:38

That's a good idea C.

Callistemon Thu 24-Oct-19 12:45:01

www.amazon.co.uk/Quality-Pet-Products-Washable-Radiator/dp/B000EDWHZ4/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=cat+radiator+bed&tag=gransnetforum-21&qid=1571917413&sr=8-5

Other retailers available at competitive prices
Our family cats have one each.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 24-Oct-19 19:38:24

Good news all, I had to pay a visit today and only just got back. She was welcoming and told me she had the heating on and she did. It was only low with two radiators on but it felt warmer. So all my nagging has done the trick. We had a lovely day. The reason for my visit was that a young man had called at the house and offered to do the garden (it did need a bit of doing) and she had agreed for him to come back today and it was going to cost £70. As she didn't have the money she wanted me to transfer it into her account, also she wasn't happy that she she didn't really know him.

Anyway to cut a long story short he asked for more money. He got short shift from me and started on the garden. He was finished in just over an hour and he hadn't done all the work, in fact only half of the agreed work was completed so I paid him half the money and told him to go and not come back. The work he had done was not good but still..

Farnorth about money. I show online every month her POA bank account and what has come in and gone out. Also talk with her about next months spending and show her the savings account. She a very good weekly allowance for food and spending. I even pay her local taxi fares monthly so she doesn't have to worry.

So thanks all those that gave me positive advice.

NfkDumpling Thu 24-Oct-19 19:44:35

Congratulations on your breakthrough! You’ll probably find she’ll have it on full blast and tropical in a couple of weeks when she finds that being warmer is pleasant! grin.

May I be the first to wish you a very Happy Christmas party

Callistemon Thu 24-Oct-19 20:40:24

Well done - he was trying it on!
That was still expensive but let's hope he got the message.

Warm is good.
Hope the cat is happy too.

Alexa Fri 25-Oct-19 09:33:48

Barmyoldbat, does your daughter care for her cat okay? Food, Water? Vet? If so her learning ability including her empathy development would be good enough?

I wonder why she won't take advice. Maybe NFKDumpling's idea might work. E.g. praise her for making her own decision about heating in the home.
I really do think you will have to abandon all idea of pretty clothing, and dress yourself as for living out of doors. Socks, furry boots, several vests , best warm trouser liners, woolly hat, big scarf.

I had to spend a few hours in a friend's cold house last January and my padded jacket saved me. I also used her woolen sofa throws . She was absent by the way.

Is there mould on your daughter's walls or cupboards?

MawB Fri 25-Oct-19 10:18:40

So glad this situation seems to have resolved itself. smile
It is so hard when we want the best for our children but also have to respect their independence and own decisions.

I find it hard to keep my counsel and especially as I no longer have Paw to remind me that I do not always know best
(Friends, however well meaning, will usually say what they think you want to hear)
And well done for seeing off the predatory “gardener”
Does she keep cash in the house? She obviously needs some but it sounds as if you keep a careful eye on her without compromising her self confidence.
So pleased for you smile