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Do I call Social Services? I really could use some help?

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SadNanna29 Mon 24-Aug-20 15:03:59

This is a long post. Please bear with me. I am scared that I will lose my beautiful grand daughter.

My DIL and Son had a beautiful little girl nearly three years ago. From day one I have had concerns about the way he speaks to her and treats her. My DIL had a traumatic birth and resulted in a full prolapse and stoma bag. My son stayed with DIL for the whole duration of her hospital stay and wasn't really concerned about his daughter. Who was being looked after by her mother.

My sons relationship with his daughter is one that scares and worries me. Ever since she was born he has taken great delight in calling her names such as bitch, retard to name just two. When I have asked him to stop his reply was that "it's funny". I am mortified. He then continued to control her in ways such as, not being allowed to go into the garden, not too much Sun. If I asked if I could take her for a walk the answer is always no. For no other reason than he knows it upsets me and when I asked why, I'm told, "she's my daughter I can do what I want with her.

DIL and Son actually separated mid year this year and so now Son sees her Tues, Thurs, Fri and Sat. Sometimes Sunday. You may think this is great but he only does it so he can see his ex-wife. He is utterly fixated with his ex wife. There is no concern for his little girl or her development. He works from home and often sits for 8 hours on his laptop while she wanders around the front room playing with the toys I've bought. Throughout Summer he wouldn't let her in the garden because he didn't like the Sun. She isn't allowed milk because she's "milk intolerant". She has never been tested. She had ring worm and when I mentioned that he could get her some cream he said that it was the washing pods he was using? Whenever she went to itch it, he shout at her to stop doing it.

He seems to take delight in making her cry. He picked her up a few weeks ago and proceeded to spin her around and she was hysterical. I challenged him and asked why making his daughter cry like that was fun. He said, "because it's funny."

She is absolutely terrified of the bath. She didn't used to be. But recently he decided that she needed a bath at 5pm. She looked at me and started crying saying that "I don't like it Nanna". She really was sobbing. When I asked why doesn't she like it he said, "she's putting it on and they are crocodile tears." When they were staying with us in the beginning of the separation I witnessed him washing her hair. She hates the water in her eyes. I had to go in and beg him to stop. She was screaming so much that she had wet herself. I bought a hair washing cap so it didn't go in her eyes. He refused to use it saying that "we don't do tears in this house."

I am now at the point where I dread the days I know that this innocent little girl goes to stay with my Son. When I go and visit she runs to me and constantly sticks by my side.

I'm not allowed to speak to his ex wife as per his instructions. Despite my saying that I want to continue having a relationship with her. But if I do speak to her he will stop my seeing my grand daughter.

A couple of weeks ago she had a bruise on her forehead. When I asked how she did it, he said she was throwing some socks around and she fell over some weights and banged her head. Yet when I asked my grand daughter, she said "Daddy smacked me."

Please help. I don't know what to do.

Hetty58 Fri 28-Aug-20 14:06:21

Bibbity has made a good point. There is no time for a soft approach. Social services need to know that there is an urgent child protection issue here. Better safe than sorry!

MerylStreep Fri 28-Aug-20 14:25:46

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emmasnan Fri 28-Aug-20 15:02:31

I know this must be an awful situation for you to be in but please keep in mind, your granddaughter cannot do anything to help herself in this situation. You are the adult, you can do something.

If your post had been written by someone else and you were reading it, would you be telling them to get help for this little girl?

Do let us know how things go.

BlueBelle Fri 28-Aug-20 15:41:10

I can totally understand other posters anger but this is going to make Sadnanna feel even worse She has come on here for guidance and support and swearing at her will not help at all
I am sure with our support she will feel brave enough to go to the next level in reporting her son

Please please alert the little ones mother, are you so afraid of your son that you dare not speak to her then you must find a way be it SS or an anonymous tip off or whatever but her mother must know

Sadnana
Why does he have so much access?
Does the little girl not cry and tell the mother she doesn’t want to go to Daddy’s? At 3 she’s old enough to verbalise and show fear
How come the mother doesn’t see the bruises ?
Is the mother as bad as the father ?

MissAdventure Fri 28-Aug-20 15:48:10

I think I would go over and above just telling the mum..
What is she going to be able to do, if the child's father has joint custody?

This isn't a criticism, but I'm amazed that the mum hasn't at least had some inkling that all is far from well.

BlueBelle Fri 28-Aug-20 15:54:52

That’s what I don’t understand MissA and why is th3 mum only having the child for a short tim3 each week ??

MissAdventure Fri 28-Aug-20 15:58:45

Hopefully sadnana will be able to shed a bit more light on the situation, but I wouldn't be waiting around while people "made a note".

LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 28-Aug-20 15:59:03

Hello, thank you to those who brought this to our attention. sadnanna29 we just wanted to say that support from other gransnetters is great and we really hope you will be able to take some comfort from your fellow posters, but as other gransnetters have said, it's really a good idea to seek real-life help and support as well.

We'd strongly advise reporting any child welfare concerns to the relevant authorities as soon as possible. flowers

Curlywhirly Fri 28-Aug-20 17:09:22

Sadnanna29 I hope you found the strength today to inform SS of your GD's abuse. I couldn't sleep last night for thinking about that small innocent child's dreadful torment. I also wonder, as other GN members have said, what the mother thinks is going on. Surely your GD must show in someway how unhappy she is when it is your son's turn to have her. I hope between you, you can convince SS to stop all your son's contact with your GD immediately.

Sparkling Fri 28-Aug-20 19:40:56

Why isn’t the mother bothered? . She is worse than him letting the brute have your granddaughter. If he was my son I would cut him off. Parents on television tonight caused their baby to lose both legs, did someone see and do nothing? Report him, he should be arrested, that would wipe the smile of the cowards face. Is there a way you could have custody, her parents don’t deserve their prescious girl. Please act now. It made me cry to read what she is going through I can’t stop thinking of the mite.

silverlining48 Sat 29-Aug-20 09:27:41

Please just talk this through with social services or get back to nspcc. They will advise and assess. Then offer support to the parents.
No one is going to arrest your son on what you have said here but your granddaughter does need you to report your valid concerns. She is unable to protect herself and this sort of very harsh treatment is damaging and could affect her whole life.

TwiceAsNice Sat 29-Aug-20 09:40:01

Please phone social services. You can do it without giving your name but give them all the details including those of your DIL. Your son sounds sadistic and could escalate his treatment at any time.

chris8888 Sat 29-Aug-20 09:49:29

This child has 2 parents and grandparents, if you put the adult ie your son before a tiny child then who is there to protect her. Make the call and then at least other professionals are able to help the child.

Alexa Sat 29-Aug-20 10:23:59

Yes, report is as soon as possible. Meantime please do stay friendly towards the stupid man so that you might be allowed to be some consolation to the little child.

He obviously will not be told by you what he should and should not be doing, so you need back up from someone who he cannot ignore.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 29-Aug-20 10:27:08

You should report this to the NSPCC and Social services as soon as possible.

DiscoDancer1975 Sat 29-Aug-20 10:47:12

Having read all this thread, it appears SadNanna, has reported him, just anonymously, which is an understandable first step. It’s easy for us to say what we think should be done to him, but all said and done, he is still her son, and it must be difficult for her, but she knows the child’s welfare is paramount. I don’t really understand what the DIL is doing in all this. Doesn’t she care either? Do what it takes SadNanna, to protect your granddaughter, as others have said. Better no access at all, than a dead little girl. Sending you my good wishes?