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Bettinalove Thu 15-Jul-21 00:31:29

Perhaps someone can tell me if i am imaging something here. DH is 72 and i am 68. We have been married for almost 40 years with never any problems until now.
Almost a year ago a young woman with 5 young children moved into the large bungalow opposite our property. I thought she was in her 30s but ive found out recently she is 44. She has always been very friendly, chatty, the house is always busy and since restrictions ease numerous men and women visit her house. She has always struck me as independent and (not at all wanting to pass judgement) appears to have plenty of money - lots of trips away, outings for the kids etc. she is at home a lot as she runs a business from home.
DH and I used to chat to her outside her garden. DH has even volunteered to help her with a crumbling wall around 5 months ago even though the work was hard for him. Since that day DH is constantly watches her house out of the window, constantly tells me everytime there is movement in the house. We had her mobile number that some time ago she gave us both but I know DH is messaging her on whatsapp. He has started to keep his phone on him all the time. Once when he left it on the sofa whilst he was in the bathroom there was scrolls of messages from him asking her how she was, could he do anything for her, would she like coffee. He told her he is free at any time to come round. She had replied to around 1 in every 10 of his messages. He also goes into the front garden when he knows she will leave and return on the school run.
I have tried to discuss this with him but he shuts me down or tells me he is trying to be friendly and implies i am the suspicious wife.
I am concerned. What on earth does he want with a 44 year old with 5 kids. she is younger then our oldest son. In one way i feel like he may be harassing her and causing awkwardness. In the other hand i wonder if she is loving the attention and there is more going on then i realise. If he sees young men - (30s/40s) go into her house he goes into a sulk for days on end. This is becoming unbearable. Or am is it really just in my head as surely - she is 28 years younger then him shes not interested is she?
As i said talking to him gets nowhere. He shuts down or doesnt speak to me for hours. Im feeling lost. sorry for length of post.

Polarbear2 Sun 18-Jul-21 14:11:22

That’s all ok if he keeps his activities legal. If he oversteps - which it sounds as if he’s on the verge of doing - and his wife has done nothing- is she not guilty also in some way? Whatever this lady shouldn’t have to put up with this. It’s hurtful in the extreme. Report him to the GP I’d say. They’ll asssess and take action. If they don’t then police is next step. If you don’t do anything and something bad happens you’ll not forgive yourself. Good luck. I really feel for you.

NotSpaghetti Sun 18-Jul-21 14:13:08

Please come back Bettinalove once you have chatted to your son.

I'm really hoping this is resolved.

MawBe Sun 18-Jul-21 17:08:51

I fear OP may have left the building, but if you are there, please read what I said about Frontotemporal Dementia and talk to a doctor.

Namsnanny Sun 18-Jul-21 22:26:07

Polarbear2

That’s all ok if he keeps his activities legal. If he oversteps - which it sounds as if he’s on the verge of doing - and his wife has done nothing- is she not guilty also in some way? Whatever this lady shouldn’t have to put up with this. It’s hurtful in the extreme. Report him to the GP I’d say. They’ll asssess and take action. If they don’t then police is next step. If you don’t do anything and something bad happens you’ll not forgive yourself. Good luck. I really feel for you.

Sorry Polarbear2, I dont think your assessment of the situation is fair.

Bettinalove was talking to her son and family this weekend, so may be there is a lot to discuss before she feels like coming back?
I do hope she does.

OnwardandUpward Sun 18-Jul-21 22:35:24

I don't think you can "report" someone to the GP as such, because any information you give them is revealed to the patient. That's why I suggested filming his activities. That way, if he goes made at having his activities talked about to the GP, Bettinalove can show him just how unreasonable his actions have been.

I do so hope Bettinalove has found the support of her family and will come back here.

OnwardandUpward Sun 18-Jul-21 22:35:56

If he goes mad not made, typo!

VANECAM Mon 19-Jul-21 09:07:58

And madder still upon learning that he his nearest and dearest has been secretly videoing him.

OnwardandUpward Mon 19-Jul-21 11:48:29

At least a video would be proof of his troubling behaviour and is undeniable. I think he would apologise if he had previously been unaware of just how badly he was acting.
The camera never lies! Of course, its up to Bettinalove to do what she feels is right.

I think that some have been cooped up in lockdown for so long that they have actually forgotten how to function in society and lost their social boundaries. It sounds like he is unaware of his actions and I think if he could see what his wife sees he may be sorry (if it isn't health related)

PippaZ Mon 19-Jul-21 12:26:02

OnwardandUpward you can certainly make the GP aware of your concerns and the GP can listen to what you have to say. What he cannot do is discuss the patient unless you have the right Power of Attorney.

eazybee Mon 19-Jul-21 13:32:43

I am pretty sure you cannot film someone secretly and then show the film to that person's doctor, even if you are related to him. The camera does lie, all the time.

cornishpatsy Mon 19-Jul-21 14:35:01

It is pointless talking to a GP as the husband does not see he is doing anything wrong so will not visit a GP. As for reporting to the police, he has not committed an offence and it would be impossible to live together after.

I hope the family come up with some realistic solutions.

BlueBelle Mon 19-Jul-21 14:58:24

So no bettina it’s now two days since she was going to talk it through with her son ?

Rosycheeks Mon 19-Jul-21 15:05:22

Perhaps her son has told her not to put anything on GN as it is a family matter. If she has told him that is.

VANECAM Mon 19-Jul-21 17:53:05

Rosycheeks I couldn’t agree more.

Especially if he’s read through all of these pages!

OnwardandUpward Wed 21-Jul-21 00:42:53

PippaZ

OnwardandUpward you can certainly make the GP aware of your concerns and the GP can listen to what you have to say. What he cannot do is discuss the patient unless you have the right Power of Attorney.

I think they do tell the patient though even when you don't want them to. Their loyalty is to the patient not to you.

OnwardandUpward Wed 21-Jul-21 00:45:36

eazybee

I am pretty sure you cannot film someone secretly and then show the film to that person's doctor, even if you are related to him. The camera does lie, all the time.

Well I know you can edit things to make it look worse but if someone is hovering around in front of the window and talking about the neighbour and you ask them to stop, but they wont- that's unreasonable or a lack of control.

PippaZ Wed 21-Jul-21 09:31:27

OnwardandUpward

PippaZ

OnwardandUpward you can certainly make the GP aware of your concerns and the GP can listen to what you have to say. What he cannot do is discuss the patient unless you have the right Power of Attorney.

I think they do tell the patient though even when you don't want them to. Their loyalty is to the patient not to you.

It is not about "loyalty". It's about the patient and the law.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 21-Jul-21 10:59:07

I remember my dad, years ago, talking to their ( my mum’s and his GP), because she was acting strangely. I know this because I sat and talked to dad about the fact we had noticed she wasn’t right. Won’t go into detail, it’s irrelevant, but suffice to say, the GP was very helpful, and told my dad it could be related to medication she was taking at the time. There may have been more discussed, but I just left it there.

My dad died a few years later, and I became estranged from my mum. We’d never seen them regularly before, perhaps once or twice a year, due to distance mainly. I never felt my mum was right though, and could see it at each visit, probably because I didn’t have the ‘ drip drip’ of seeing them regularly. I never got the chance to speak to dad again, my mum always got in the way, so can’t say how it panned out.

Confidentiality may be more strict now. This was about 20 years ago. As I always say on every thread I go on, the only way forward is honesty, and talking. Nothing covert, just plain out there. The OP’s husband could be ill, but this neighbour needs to be informed. Even if she laughs and scoffs, the right thing has been done, and then you bettina, can concentrate on your husband.

All the best.

Bettinalove Wed 21-Jul-21 13:40:47

hi everyone. Thanks so much for your messages. This is so so difficult. i had lunch and a long chat with DS2 and DIL. DS2 was devastated. He has phoned the GP and expressed his concerns. Hes been told to call back if still worried in a "few" months. DS2 took a fishing trip on Monday with DH and tried to talk to him about it. DH has told DS2 he cannot bear me anymore and needs his life back with the woman he loves. DH has not exactly said but indicated to DS2 he is "looking" on what he classes as appropriate sites online. DIL has been wonderful. She is the same age as the woman. DIL has been to speak to the woman. Ive found out the woman has a boyfriend and actually thought DH was watching her to report her to the police for breaking the rule of 6. DIL thought the woman didnt seem bothered when she explained that DH had been exhibiting inappropriate behaviour aimed at her.

The situation has gone from bad to worse when 2 of the womans friends and her boyfriend came round last night to challenge him. DH was in the front garden avoiding me as normal so they must have been watching for him. i saw them come and stayed inside at the window. They basically told him to back off. DH got very animated, shouting he could love who he chooses etc etc, embarrassing himself then picked up the garden fork and started pointing it at them swinging it towards them. Another neighbour called the police. A friend of the woman disarmed DH, he fell backwards and is now in hospital with a dislocated hip.

DIL came and stayed with me overnight. Shes still here. My neighbour next door who is a good friend went to talk to the woman. The woman then called me on the phone and i told her i didnt want any friction and i was sorry for what DH had done. She was upset as well.

So where do i go from here. i have no idea. DS2 has asked DD and DS1 to come to visit as soon as possible. They will be here later. I have a husband who cannot bear me, a street laughing at me and a neighbour who could call the police on me. I feel terrible for saying but i am a little relieved DH is in hospital for a few days just to get some space and time.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 21-Jul-21 14:01:56

Poor Bettinalove. I’m so pleased your children are rallying round. You’ve dealt with this alone for so long. Now you have their help and support. Please don’t think the neighbours are laughing at you. If they’re laughing at anyone it’s him because he’s been so silly. And the neighbour who called the police only did so because there was a dangerous situation. She didn’t call them to you. Now your husband is in hospital you have a perfect opportunity to speak to his doctor there to get him properly assessed by a mental health professional. He is almost certainly mentally ill. Treatment may be possible. This incident may be a blessing in disguise for you. Good luck and do let us know how you’re getting on. You have a lot of supportive friends here.

Hithere Wed 21-Jul-21 14:11:46

So sorry for the urgent developments.

Is is clear that the situation was more serious than originally thought in the initial posts - your dh's behaviour was crossing the line

I would avoid any interaction between neighbour and your husband.

Your dh clearly has a medical or mental issue that needs help

Shandy57 Wed 21-Jul-21 14:14:10

Big hugs Bettinalove, no-one could have predicted this would all blow up like this a week ago, you are doing very well. I'm glad you have your family on side, and as dreadful and unfortunate as it is, I hope your husband can be assessed in hospital.

Daisymae Wed 21-Jul-21 14:28:43

I really don't think that anyone is laughing at you. This is a serious and sad situation. Your husband's mental health needs to be assessed while he is in hospital. I would think that where you go from here depends on two things, the result of the assessment and what you would like to do. At least you can now discuss things openly and get some help and support for whatever you decide to do. You do have a voice in all this. I vets wouldn't have him home without help.

TrendyNannie6 Wed 21-Jul-21 14:29:24

Please don’t think anyone is laughing at you bettinalove they aren’t, hopefully your DH will get sorted now in hospital and be assessed, I’m glad your Ac are helping you, please take care of yourself, best wishes & please let us know how everything is going when you can, people do care on here and will show you support

Luckygirl Wed 21-Jul-21 14:42:19

I am sorry that you are in this pickle. It is not of your making and you must not feel embarrassed about it.

Your OH's behaviour in front of these people serves to make it all the clearer that he has problems with reasoning and mental functioning. He is not the man you married; and you must remember that if he were his normal self, there would be no question of him not being able to "bear" you.

The neighbour talked of calling the police because your OH's behaviour was becoming dangerous - none of this is aimed at you. You do not know that people are laughing at you - you might be surprised how many people will recognise similar problems with their own families, in one degree or another.

Your last paragraph is full of negatives, and I can understand your feelings. But please count the positives too - your family are by your side and have got your back - that is a precious thing.

I do fully understand how difficult it is when the man you loved and with whom you have spent a large chunk of your life suddenly undergoes a personality change (even if through no fault of their own) - I have been there and it was hard.

You are not bad to feel relieved that he is in hospital where hopefully they will do some proper testing and assessment to see what is going on. It is important that someone in your family talks to the medics and makes sure they know what is going on.

I send you strength and good wishes. flowers