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Jezra Sat 21-Aug-21 00:18:07

Do all men eye, size women up, look at every single woman? I feel like my DH has been doing this always but it seems more noticeable to me now.
It felt good during lockdown as I felt I had his full attention but of course we are back out and mixing again and it has all started up again.
I am not imagining it as some women seem to love it, then look at me with pity in their eyes. Other women, especially the really young ones find it funny ( he is in his late 60’s).
He always talks about the young woman next door in her 20’s and looks to see if she is about and if she is will engage her in conversation. He also looks for the woman two doors down who is in her 30’s and does the same.
If we are in a restaurant or cafe and we are talking to each other his eyes flit ti every woman that passes by or any woman sitting behind me and I find it really irritating. I’ve told him I don’t like it but it falls on deaf ears and he says that’s pathetic and over reacting. Is it?

Jezra Mon 23-Aug-21 22:52:13

Now hold on a minute MOnica! At no time did I mention that my DH looks at children in that way. I also did not say he leered at women. He glances - yes but at women not girls.
You are assuming a lot here.

Jezra Mon 23-Aug-21 22:54:42

I am quite offended by your post MOnica.

Hithere Mon 23-Aug-21 23:47:20

M0nica has a great point

A man unable to control his sexual impulses is very borderline sexual harassment, same as catcalling.
How sad how socially acceptable it is how men sexualize and objectify women

I couldn't be with anybody who treated my kind like that

Jezra Tue 24-Aug-21 09:31:57

“A man unable to control his sexual impulses is very borderline sexual harassment, same as catcalling.
How sad how socially acceptable it is how men sexualize and objectify women.”
This.
I agree.

henetha Tue 24-Aug-21 10:15:10

All my sympathy, Jezra. I lived with a man like that and know how lowering to the spirits it is. I don't know what the answer is. Eventually he left me and, although I was deeply devasted, nevertheless there was the feeling of relief at not having to endure his endless flirtations any longer.
Do you feel you can put up with it for ever? If not think long and hard about what to do.

M0nica Tue 24-Aug-21 16:22:33

Jezra my grandaughter looks like a woman, that was my point. She could easily pass for an 18 or 19 year old woman if she wanted to. However the mind in side that mature body is still that of a 14 year old girl.

If all he is giving is a quick glance, then what is the problem. From the way you wrote your OP, talking about
Do all men eye, size women up, look at every single woman? I feel like my DH has been doing this always but it seems more noticeable to me now
^I am not imagining it as some women seem to love it, then look at me with pity in their eyes. Other women, especially the really young ones find it funny ( he is in his late 60’s).
He always talks about the young woman next door in her 20’s and looks to see if she is about and if she is will engage her in conversation. He also looks for the woman two doors down who is in her 30’s and does the same.^
If we are in a restaurant or cafe and we are talking to each other his eyes flit ti every woman that passes by or any woman sitting behind me and I find it really irritating.

that is really not my definition of 'glancing'. If women are seeing what he is doing and responding he is as close to leering at those women as makes no difference.

For my DGD's parents, especially myDDiL and to a lesser extent me, to seeing men leering at our lovely 14 year old, is upsetting in the extreme. So far she does not notice it, but soon she will and will have to know that an accident of genetics means she has the kind of hour glass 1940s shape that attracts men and that she is going to have to learn to protect herself from male attention for reasons that are unrelated to anything she may be or do.

M0nica Tue 24-Aug-21 16:23:38

Somehow the above has come out rather garbled but I think the attention is clear, but it is a subject that is very immediate and upsetting for me.

Jezra Tue 24-Aug-21 17:29:33

Thanks for replying M0nica. I see your point. I too have an hour glass figure and from an early age have had men look at me but I didn’t realise the seriousness or awfulness of it until I was much older. I was very naive and I suppose I still am to a certain extent or I wouldn’t have asked the original question.
I see many young girls who have a woman’s figure and they seem to think it’s amusing when they get stared at or they crave the attention. I only hope schools and families are educating them regarding this.

Jezra Tue 24-Aug-21 17:30:42

At first I took offence MOnica but now I understand how upsetting it must be for you. I would feel exactly the same.

M0nica Wed 25-Aug-21 09:29:58

Thank you Jezra I appreciate your posts. DGD and family have just been staying with us and we have been out and about, so I am seeing what DDiL has spoken about. DGD comes from a home where having boyfriends and measuring her success in those terms has never arisen and she is fortunate to have a group of friends from similar backgrounds, in fact, she mentioned one friend as moving away from the group because she was boring - always talking about boys -.

Jezra Wed 25-Aug-21 20:53:00

Your DGD obviously comes from a good family all round. I have one adult son but I always brought him up to respect the opposite sex and the importance of acting appropriately.
He has always had nice girlfriends and his long term partner now is absolutely lovely.