Petition: Give legal right of contact between grandchildren and grandparents

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Germanshepherdsmum

So you trust people on these other fora and give them your real name but don’t trust people on GN? Nice.

Why should she trust anyone on Gransnet with anything identifying? Tell me what makes Gransnet so safe?

To be fair I would not like to tell posters what other forums I am on, or things that could be outing.
VS I think it would have been better not to have mentioned you are on a closed forum especially as you have to give your real name on these sites.

rafichagran

To be fair I would not like to tell posters what other forums I am on, or things that could be outing.
VS I think it would have been better not to have mentioned you are on a closed forum especially as you have to give your real name on these sites.

Yes, it was a mistake

I don't mention there that I am here... I like gransnet and the slow pace... Wouldn't want it busy like other forums with even more arguing

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VioletSky

rafichagran

To be fair I would not like to tell posters what other forums I am on, or things that could be outing.
VS I think it would have been better not to have mentioned you are on a closed forum especially as you have to give your real name on these sites.

Yes, it was a mistake

I don't mention there that I am here... I like gransnet and the slow pace... Wouldn't want it busy like other forums with even more arguing

I joined one closed site, for widows/widowers, after I lost DH, where I had to prove who I was and that I was widowed. I fully got it, as those sort of sites can attract scammers/predators. All good, although the site wasn’t for me anyway.

But, even on that site, they said that you must use a “forum name” when posting, so no one could easily be identified anyway, unless they took part in the real life meet-ups.

Being eligible to join a bereavement site can be easily proved, but I can’t imagine what you’d have to supply to join many other sort of sites.🤔

So any desperate GP who may sign this petition must be a narc, a control freak with a bullying nature!!! Thank goodness there have been in the main, sensible responses on this thread.

That's standard procedure for closed sites DL. Not all require a 'forum name', some do allow you to use another if you feel safer doing so on the site, but your initial application must be in your actual name to try and avoid anyone who isn't genuine.

SingcoTime, go and have a cup of tea and a quiet sit-down, and chill. Have you actually read the thread? If so, you’ve somehow missed that the prevailing opinion is against the petition.

Smileless2012

So any desperate GP who may sign this petition must be a narc, a control freak with a bullying nature!!! Thank goodness there have been in the main, sensible responses on this thread.

That's standard procedure for closed sites DL. Not all require a 'forum name', some do allow you to use another if you feel safer doing so on the site, but your initial application must be in your actual name to try and avoid anyone who isn't genuine.

Ah right. I’ve joined the odd FB closed group, mainly neighbourhood things, which connect you anyway.

But, I’ve not got much experience on other closed groups - I tend to use open forums more.🙂

Even if anyone does sign Delila, it doesn't mean they're a narc, control freak with a bullying nature. Just another example of GP bashing.

Singco I am not going to sign the petition, but I find your post very odd and so aggressive.

Bit late to this party but I will not be signing the petition. I believe there is legal redress through the courts for estranged grandparents where, I presume, familial circumstances are duly examined. This seems to be a much safer and fairer way to gain access rather than an automatic right which could be abused.

flappergirl, you’re correct, applications to the family court can be made. Mediation will always be expected. The majority of families live well with loving relationships between generations. Some families struggle but muddle through. Total denial of children to grandchildren relationships are rare. Legal solutions rarely help but if there’s child focussed goodwill, mediation may help
The endless need some have to criticise and blame grandparents is out of place here

Smileless2012

Even if anyone does sign Delila, it doesn't mean they're a narc, control freak with a bullying nature. Just another example of GP bashing.

Of course it doesn’t. People can sign what they like. I wouldn’t, because I think case by case is better, but I wouldn’t condemn others who did.🙄

Well, some do like GP bashing. All GPs. We can’t do right for doing wrong at times lol 😉

Iam64

flappergirl, you’re correct, applications to the family court can be made. Mediation will always be expected. The majority of families live well with loving relationships between generations. Some families struggle but muddle through. Total denial of children to grandchildren relationships are rare. Legal solutions rarely help but if there’s child focussed goodwill, mediation may help
The endless need some have to criticise and blame grandparents is out of place here

Yes, it’s bizarre to come onto a site mainly used by GPs and then constantly tell them they must be poor grandparents. 🙄

We are not clones - everyone, of whatever age, is different.

The endless need some have to criticise and blame grandparents is out of place here I agree too Iam, it's a pity some can't contribute to these discussions and be able to see beyond their own personal experiences.

The endless need some have to criticise and blame grandparents is out of place here

Yes, it's like a form of bullying.

Smileless2012

^The endless need some have to criticise and blame grandparents is out of place here^ I agree too Iam, it's a pity some can't contribute to these discussions and be able to see beyond their own personal experiences.

I agree, there was someone earlier on the thread who took umbrage at what I thought was my balanced post for no reason and insinuated that I was being vehemently sanctimonious.

Whatever that might mean!

But it felt like bullying.

I'm not surprised it felt like bullying Callistemon. There's no need to be unpleasant and I always think when someone is that they've already lost the argument.

Doesn't sound like you at all; whatever it means .

How was I to know this poster had a very difficult back-story?

I'm still not sure what it meant anyway!

Yes some people probably have had a bad experience

No one signed it though so don't see any need to take it personally?

Or maybe we have secret signers lol

It doesn't seem to matter to some if they do know a poster has a difficult back story Callistemon, as we can see from some of the responses on this thread .

We often don’t know the back story of a post. Why would we? Unless the poster has shared or there have been PMs between two posters (and by it’s very nature PM means private) then we have no way to know. We can only respond to what has been written. I don’t think GPs should have automatic rights, but unless there there are very compelling reasons why they shouldn’t see their grandchildren, then I think it unreasonable for parents to deny access.
I benefited enormously from the relationship I had with my grandparents when I was a child. So did my parents, they had readymade babysitters.

I fail to see how SingcoTime's post couldn't be taken personally VS which is probably why it was deleted.

Whether others signed it is no one else’s business anyway. If I’d have agreed with it, I’d have signed it, regardless of what others think or whether they got upset.

Some posts are attempts at bullying, and some posts do get personal.

Most of have had difficulties through life, because that’s what life does. That’s no excuse to strop around being personally aggressive to others.🙄