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Any advice on how to forgive?

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LR10 Tue 05-Nov-24 08:55:30

Apologies for the long post but it’s difficult to condense it into a couple of lines. I am trying so hard to forgive my ex d-i-l and feel compassion for her. I know that me bearing a grudge only harms me, not her - do any other gransnetters have experience of being able to forgive? My ds was married for 20 years and his now ex wife has done so much damage to our family and their children. We realise now that she suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which means that although she has presented as the perfect mother, and a selfless victim in actual fact she has been just the opposite. The recent discovery of so many wicked lies and coercive manipulative behaviour over the years have left us all shellshocked, however we have been able to mend some of the family relationships that her lies destroyed, so we are thankful for that. So many times we ignored her comments and behaviour for - as we thought - the sake of our ds. She continues to smear my ds which is so hard to see, we just want her to get on with her life and allow all of us to start over. Domestic abuse is recognised by our society now thank goodness, but abuse by women is not widely recognised, and often hidden by male victims because of enbarassment. Unfortunately NPD is rarely diagnosed as the sufferer truly believes they are special and superior, and they genuinely have no empathy. I am hanging on to that fact to try to help myself understand and forgive. Does anyone have words of advice?

GrannyIvy Thu 07-Nov-24 09:07:33

My ex son in law is a very cruel narcissistic man. What he has done to his children, continues to do to them and my daughter makes me feel sick. I will never forgive and just try to forget him and move on and hope and pray my gorgeous GC are not left too scarred by having him very much (due to a Court Order) in their life and as they grow up they will see in for what he is and walk away from him.

NPD individuals only love themselves and are so cruel and vile if crossed. They believe they are superior to everyone else and can do no wrong. Stay well away is my advice if you can.

Why forgive just leave in the past.

Philippa111 Thu 07-Nov-24 11:37:44

Narcissistic personality disorder is an illness. And yes these people can do a lot of damage. Therapy usually doesn’t make much difference should they even want it. Sadly they see everyone else as the problem and are not capable of self reflection.

If it is someone with a physical ailment we find it much easier to understand. Mental illness of this kind is much much harder.

Some people say pray for the person for 21 days. Or hand them over to God or a higher power as you understand it You have understood that having your heart closed off and being unable to forgive is hurting you. Ultimately the stress of it can make you unwell.

The other person is walking around unaware of how their behaviour affects others, so they will not change.

Some say that forgiveness is not necessary to be able to move on and letting go of resentment and anger is enough and focusing on the fact that the person them self is very unwell can help.

You need to look to your own wellbeing and understand fully that the only person you are hurting is yourself and the only person who can bring equilibrium to you is you.

It’s a difficult task and it takes time but it can bring a lot of rewards. The main one being inner peace.
I wish you well with it.

NannaAngie Thu 07-Nov-24 13:04:38

Thank you. I'm in a similar situation with my older sister who caused years of destruction to the family.

Nannyof4mummyof2 Thu 07-Nov-24 13:38:41

Tbh I am not sure if your ready to forgive do you have to see her or have her in your life ?? I you don't I would suggest concentrating on your own healing some things are hard to understand or forgive leave it for now you'll know when you have no feelings one way or the other that this person is of no really consequence you will be past the forgiving stage and do you really need to when it feels so hard now xx good luck with the terrible ordeal you are coping with

Smileless2012 Thu 07-Nov-24 19:23:17

A narcissist thinks only of themselves. They may lack empathy but they are not blind to the pain and suffering they cause others, they simply don't care.

Allsorts Thu 07-Nov-24 19:31:13

Its past. Your son is free of her. Why do you need to forgive, you don't want her as a friend,

JuBut Thu 07-Nov-24 19:58:30

I wouldn't forgive her! That feeds her behaviour. You all need to move on and get on with your lives. She should go to hell

Mamma66 Thu 07-Nov-24 21:51:26

Has she asked for your forgiveness?

If she hasn’t, you will not be able to forgive her.

You can let it go though, but it takes a lot of determination.

I, and some former colleagues, were very badly done by some years ago. Had it not been for friends and family it would have ruined us financially and we would have lost our home. We were not at fault. My former boss behaved appallingly and caused substantial financial hardship for over 100 people.

I was very angry. An older and wiser colleague told me to let it go and reminded me that my anger would turn to bitterness if I didn’t let it go. It took time and determination but I consider it to have been some of the best advice I have ever been given.

Leave the past in the past and mentally walk away. Good luck 💐

Sasta Mon 11-Nov-24 13:10:21

Very sad to hear this LR10. We have been dealing with this vile issue in our family for over 10 years. It’s so hard, people who don’t have experience of how NPDs operate have very little idea of how painful and destructive it is. My heart goes out to you. If only it was as simple as moving on after the split, but this is impossible if children are involved. We will never ever forgive the woman who tried to destroy our son, personally and professionally and continues to do so by telling lies. She’s brutal and physically hurt him too but tells the story the other way round, as is their way. We keep civil for our grandchild’s sake and will do so always, despite our hurt. I wish your family the very best.

Sasta Mon 11-Nov-24 13:11:50

Ps, you learn to suck it up for the sake of children, but it comes at a cost health wise for sure.

Sasta Mon 11-Nov-24 13:16:25

‘The other person is walking around unaware of how their behaviour affects others, so they will not change.’

I have to disagree here Philippa111. They know very well the damage and hurt they cause and thrive on it.

Ilovedogs22 Mon 11-Nov-24 14:38:22

Smileless2012

A narcissist thinks only of themselves. They may lack empathy but they are not blind to the pain and suffering they cause others, they simply don't care.

Summed- up beautifully Smileless2012! 😏

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ginny Wed 13-Nov-24 11:05:50

You really don’t need to forgive her. You just have to accept that it happened and you can do nothing to change that. You just need to be there for your son and family.
My eldest DD is divorced from a very controlling man. He changed after they were married , as these sort of people do. Although obviously they hide their true nature beforehand.

He totally destroyed her self confidence and that of my DGS who was 8 when they divorced.
Now 14 years later DD is with a lovely partner who over the last 10 years has restored her confidence, puts her first and who DGS loves. He sees his father on his own terms and has grown to realise the sort of man he is.

I ‘ll never forgive her ex for what he put them through but I rejoice in her happiness now.