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eninn Thu 21-Jun-12 02:54:15

Is the day when the scientists are able to know what the man is thinking of and what he is hiding from people coming? This is what the scientists hope but what is the truth? Let us read?

Scientists from Britain, Germany and Japan finally managed to read the mind and what the person think of! They have used imaging device using magnetic resonance, (Magnetic Resonance Imaging MRI) after doing many amazing experiments.

They have asked a person a question which has the answer of either yes or no, and the MRI always showed the area of the brain related to the question. If the answer is yes, a specific area in the brain will be activated and the device will immediately detect this activation, whereas if the answer is no, another area of the brain will be activated and consequently detected by the device.

A real photo of the brain taken by MRI showing the activation of specific areas of the brain during thinking of a certain matter, each area is specialized with one type of ideas. When a man is asked a question like, do you love this person or not?, The device detects the area responsible for yes or no answer before the man answers, as soon as thinking starts, the device will detect the answer and show on a computer monitor the glowing area of the brain from which the answer can be detected!! Surely using software specialized for this purpose.

Therefore, this device is used to tell you what you think of!! But the experiment still in the primary stage and the question is: can scientists one day reach to know all things the men think of?

Professor, Colin Blakemore says "we should not be very optimist at this stage, because experiments are at the start of the way. However, other scientists say that we could read people's mind and intentions and know their passion and plans.

Anyway, dear reader, I do not think that these experiments will develop on large scale, as Allah the Almighty says: "Allâh knows the fraud of the eyes, and all that the breasts conceal" (19: Gafir). this noble verse confirms that hidden things of the person is known by nobody except Allah, the Almighty, but techniques may develop and enable scientists from reading some of the person's mind through the brain but will not be able to know for example the person's tenet.

Greatnan Thu 21-Jun-12 18:16:47

That is a much better version.

jeni Thu 21-Jun-12 18:21:28

Well done jinggrin

As I said earlier, it is true. The lecture I went to showed that if a painful stimulus was applied to a person, if a close friend was present then the same changes showed up on their MRI as well.
The Americanism 'I feel your pain' can be true.

j04 Thu 21-Jun-12 18:40:23

Yes, but it just depends on the culture you come from. And English is my first language.

jeni Thu 21-Jun-12 18:46:07

You are joking! I would never have guessed!grin

petallus Sat 23-Jun-12 20:06:28

Oooh, I must come on this thread more often!

I read the original post once and thought 'eh!'. So read it another twice and still can't get all that excited at latest scientific advance in reading people's minds; obviously a long way to go yet.

As for Allah/God etc. well who knows about him? I once read a book by Carl Jung who argued that God does exist, if only as a myth, and is real in the same way that Father Christmas is real.

Actually real or not the 'idea' of Allah/God has certainly had a big effect on human history.

I've read the bible and like the philosophy but still an athiest/agnostic.

j04 Sat 23-Jun-12 20:20:37

I suppose being able to accurately read the brain through MRI scanning would be useful in predicting criminal intent in a person.

johanna Sat 23-Jun-12 21:10:46

jo4
wink

flowerfriend Sat 23-Jun-12 21:18:26

Who is the person who started this topic do we know her. I cannot help but feel it is one of those introduced topics. There seems to have been a few recently.

j04 Sat 23-Jun-12 21:47:00

Exactly johanna. grin

Elegran Sat 23-Jun-12 21:54:12

A Gransnet search reveals that this is his only post here

A Google search threw up several posts by him on Muslim religious forums on subjects like "Description of the Virgins in Paradise" "Belief in the Djinn" and one on the reasons for veiling women. He is banned on one forum.

He sounds to me like a fundamentalist.

Elegran Sat 23-Jun-12 21:59:56

He might be a she, of course, but from the posts under that name on other forums, I think not.

j04 Sat 23-Jun-12 22:03:45

I still think it seems a harmless post. Until you start reading things into it which may or may not be there. shock

Elegran Sat 23-Jun-12 22:19:41

Yes, J it is just an over-verbose religioso burbling on. They come in various denominations and faiths but most are harmless. No need for anyone to bristle, better for anyone who does not like it to flip to another thread and leave this one to wither.

Anagram Sat 23-Jun-12 22:51:02

I agree, Elegran. I'm sure this post has been sent out to many sites and forums.

petallus Sun 24-Jun-12 09:17:05

Post harmless. A bit boring.

j04 Sun 24-Jun-12 10:15:12

So, not even a tiny bit sinister?

When you think how useful it would be to MI5 to be able to accurately read a person's intentions?

j04 Sun 24-Jun-12 10:16:17

The original poster does seem quite happy that such a possibility is well into the future.

I'm gonna get deleted here.

Greatnan Sun 24-Jun-12 10:16:58

It seems to me like someone coming up to a group of friends who are chatting and starting to give them a religious sermon.

Bags Sun 24-Jun-12 10:18:58

Only a bit boring?

j04 Sun 24-Jun-12 10:20:44

Perhaps I'm seeing the modern day version of 'reds under the beds'. grin

whenim64 Sun 24-Jun-12 10:26:09

Elegran you make a good point smile

absentgrana Sun 24-Jun-12 10:29:12

jeni Detecting "feeling someone else's pain" is not the same thing as reading their thoughts. It's not even remotely similar.

j04 Sun 24-Jun-12 11:49:32

absent Think you need to read jeni's post again.

jeni Sun 24-Jun-12 12:21:09

absent I never said it was. I was just demonstrating that these active MRI scans are throwing up some interesting facts. Another eg, was that if a load of people are put in a coach and told to expect a rear end shunt, then a large bang is made. They complain of similar symptoms to whiplash and MRI scans show pain, even though no shunt has occurred.

absentgrana Sun 24-Jun-12 12:37:42

j04 Read jeni's next post. A response to pain – real or imagined – is not the same as a thought.

jeni It's interesting isn't it? My comment wasn't intended as a criticism of you or your comment; it was a continuation of my earlier suggestion that the original post and its stuff about reading minds was a load of old tosh. smile