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In the meantime, some Christians demonstrate their peaceful minds

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granjura Fri 23-Jan-15 13:21:26

Warning, strong language, not from Dawkins, but those peaceful loveing Christians who write to him..

youtu.be/gW7607YiBso

granjura Fri 23-Jan-15 19:08:34

Hence the use of the word 'some' Eloethan.

The point I am trying to make here, is that generalisations about Christians are as unfair and pointless as generalities about Muslims- which I have heard by the bucketload recently.

Eloethan Fri 23-Jan-15 19:12:34

I agree granjura.

Anya Fri 23-Jan-15 23:42:32

granjura thank you for taking the time to re-read my post and posting that you understood the point I was making.

Ana Fri 23-Jan-15 23:54:22

I had already made the same point, but obviously not in a way that was understandable.

Anya Sat 24-Jan-15 08:15:19

Are we just being too subtle Ana?

TriciaF Sat 24-Jan-15 18:58:33

Although my post about fundamentalist atheist was a bit tongue in cheek, I've met many atheists and they're mostly tolerant and respectful to believers.
Can't say that about RD, and I've come across some of his supporters on other forums who are also very offensive.

thatbags Sat 24-Jan-15 20:05:39

You can say that about RD, actually. He respects people. He doesn't respect certain types of belief. People are not beliefs. Beliefs are not people.

petallus Sat 24-Jan-15 22:12:24

Sophistry!

absent Sat 24-Jan-15 22:27:35

I don't think bags is deliberately trying to deceive you petallus and where is the falsity in what she has posted?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Jan-15 22:28:42

Has everyone googled sophistry yet?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Jan-15 22:29:36

It's a word you don't hear very often. Sounds biblical.

absent Sat 24-Jan-15 22:30:05

Only the illiterate ones jingl. grin

vampirequeen Sat 24-Jan-15 22:42:38

Oh dear it appears I'm illiterate sad

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Jan-15 22:44:10

Yeah well. There's illiterate. And then there's illiterate.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Jan-15 22:45:34

I think that could be sophistry. In an un-sophisticated way.

Ana Sat 24-Jan-15 22:51:43

Yes, how very rude of you absent. I googled it too - not a word I use in everyday conversation, but I'll certainly bear it in mind for future use on here...hmm

Eloethan Sat 24-Jan-15 22:58:39

I didn't know what sophistry meant either and had to look it up.

absent Sat 24-Jan-15 23:03:32

Not so rude as accusing another poster of sophistry, though, Ana.

Ana Sat 24-Jan-15 23:06:02

I beg to differ, absent.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Jan-15 23:09:08

I'm not sure you can separate the person from the person's beliefs. What are we if we are not that which we believe in? confused

Ana Sat 24-Jan-15 23:10:26

'A method of argument that is seemingly plausible though actually invalid and misleading', which is the definition I read (although there are of course others!) doesn't imply deliberate deception or falsity.

absent Sat 24-Jan-15 23:22:11

Of course you beg to differ, Ana.

Well, if we're going to bandy dictionaries again, the first definition in the Shorter OED is: "Specious but fallacious reasoning; employment of arguments which are intentionally deceptive".

Anya Sat 24-Jan-15 23:31:43

What a strange thing to say Absent - or did you truly not realise how rude you sounded?

Anya Sat 24-Jan-15 23:34:45

Ah ha! So you did look it up too Absent grin wink hmm

Ana Sat 24-Jan-15 23:38:56

Only to try and prove her point. Not like us illiterati...hmm