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Anya Sun 30-Aug-15 14:47:08

Dr. Laura Slessinger is a well-known conservative talk show host. She has expressed very negative beliefs about homosexuality.

She has firmly supported and advocated biblical morality on her TV and radio shows. The following is a tongue-in-cheek letter seeking Dr. Laura's advice on applying biblical morality and religious duties in today's world. Its author is unknown.

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When people try to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them:

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev.1:9).The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7.In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness (Lev.15:19-24).The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev.25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev.11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev.11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread cotton/polyester blend. He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them (Lev.24:10-16)? Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev.20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you.

soontobe Mon 07-Sept-15 19:26:49

jingl, I am 20 years younger than you. That might make the difference.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 07-Sept-15 19:27:18

He sort of radiated goodness.

soontobe Mon 07-Sept-15 19:29:26

I really should have put a grin on the end of that, shouldn't I! wink

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 07-Sept-15 19:34:58

No. No grin needed. I believe I have known about, read about, and admired him all of my adult life. You have had plenty of time to hear about him.

You are not a Methodist.

Luckygirl Mon 07-Sept-15 19:35:14

Donald Soper was a special man and much respected by all.

durhamjen Mon 07-Sept-15 19:35:27

Anyone who's heard of Tony Benn will have heard of Donald Soper, jingl.

soontobe Mon 07-Sept-15 19:35:44

Therer are loads of instances of God repaying people, if they were repeatedly told not to do something.
The Bible says he is slow to anger, but once he acts, he acts [I am talking about the Old Testament].

Ana Mon 07-Sept-15 19:41:34

Do you believe that homosexuality is a sin, soontobe?

soontobe Mon 07-Sept-15 19:42:33

Whatever. If people choose not to believe I am a Methodist, so be it. I am not into repeating myself.

You will all have to eat your words though, if gransnet get the chief Methodist man on here!
Time for me to see how they are doing with that.

Anniebach Mon 07-Sept-15 19:43:43

When he died one newspaper said he was the most Christian man of the century. I remember when he visited Northern Ireland Ian Paisley threw a bible at Sopers head because Soper questioned the literal truth of the bible . In my opinion this man was as close to being a Saint as anyone I have heard or read

Alea Mon 07-Sept-15 19:51:13

Which will bring us back to "Doh" etc (or alternatively the OP.)
is this a total wind up?
There have been some totally bonkers surprising posts and some ludicrous assertions. I hardly need say which ones, I think most people are shaking their heads and wondering not least at the non sequiturs, not to mention a level of theological discussion unknown since the days of duck NY stools and burning at the stake.
You couldn't make it up and on a thread entitled "Religious Tolerance" <shakes head sadly>

soontobe Mon 07-Sept-15 19:51:21

I have just emailed them.

Yes Ana. Sadly. It is written about many times in the Bible. The behaviour is a sin. That does not mean that we are not to love them though, obviously.

Alea Mon 07-Sept-15 19:52:55

That was in reply to Ana BTW and my iPad does not appear to have heard of ducking stools

Anniebach Mon 07-Sept-15 19:53:42

That would be fantastic soon, I hope we will be allowed to ask Rev Wild if he agrees with Donald Sopers doubts on the literal truth of the Bible, if he is too busy perhaps your Vice President would join us, she studied at Aberystwyth university , she was president of the Methodist Society whilst there

soontobe Mon 07-Sept-15 19:57:12

I have had an idea. What I could do, is ask Rev Wild to contact gransnet to verify myself as being a Methodist[we last saw each other 2 weeks ago], and gransnet might kindly then send on the verification.

Though quite how that is going to help with anything to a few posters, I am not sure.

Anniebach Mon 07-Sept-15 19:59:56

The bible says ' I am a God slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love '

soontobe Mon 07-Sept-15 20:00:25

No idea who the Vice President is, I will email gransnet.

Alea Mon 07-Sept-15 20:04:13

Why don't we invite Steve Wild (presid not of the Methodist Conference) and Jill Barber (vice-president) oh, but of course you don't approve of women preachers. Might get embarrassing hmm

This is them (OK pedants, these are they)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLkA6AY0Zpw&list=PLoWWaJT3-_P5Gk8oJt4jg5FLvVzQ4i4an

Anniebach Mon 07-Sept-15 20:04:50

But soon, anyone could claim to be whom you called - the big Methodist man ! Glad I helped you remember his name ,

Alea Mon 07-Sept-15 20:06:29

Oh gremlins!!!
" president" of course.
Incidentally, soontobe how come you (as an officer of the Methodist Church) have no idea who the vice-president is?

Ana Mon 07-Sept-15 20:06:53

The fact that you believe that homosexuality is a sin says it all for me.

You are not a true Christian in my book, soontobe. You don't even seem to try to think for yourself, and most of your input on threads other than religious subjects seems to have been gleaned by a bit of desultory googling. I'm out.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 07-Sept-15 20:08:28

soon, when I said "you are not a methodist", I didn't mean that you don't belong to a Methodist church. I'm not calling you a liar.

But there are Methodists, and Methodists.

Anniebach Mon 07-Sept-15 20:10:49

soon, is it possible you are a very recent convert to Christianity? It would explain much

SineDie Mon 07-Sept-15 20:14:25

www.methodist.org.uk/downloads/pi-equal-civil-marriage-consultation-response-0612.pdf

Seems to be a bit different from what STB says

soontobe Mon 07-Sept-15 20:16:09

Anniebach. The email to gransnet would have to come from his work email address. Does that make sense?

Oh I see jingl. There are indeed Methodists and Methodists. Most of us tend to rub along very happily together.

Alea. I perhaps should. But there is District level before we get onto Connection.

The President is only in the job for a year, so just about impossible to remember the two names each and every year.