Religious tolerance

I do not think that is so - at least not this "people"!

Soop has been advocating a literal interpretation of the bible (although seems not to have heard about original sin??) and I am trying to point out that this is dangerous - both for the bible and any other religious text, as they often reflect the power brokers and vested interests of their generation of writing.

The slaughter of the crusades and the mayhem being cased by ISIS are prime examples and should stand as a warning about the dangers inherent in religions, which deal in fundamentals and cannot but help leaning towards fundamentalism. I find it terrifying.

I am sure soon is a lovely kind lady, but it is her sort of views that are the basis of this sort of misery.

As will be clear from my posts, I have no problem with religious people who read their texts with their brains switched on and seek the true heart of the message - which is invariably about love and kindness. It is clear Annie that this is where you are coming from; and indeed where my many religious close friends are coming from too.

My mistake Luckygirl so apologies , need to get my brain in gear

Annie - I really like your "religion of one" - it sounds like a good way to live!

Gets me into trouble often Luckygirl , would make life easier to fall into line

As this is about sticking to the scriptures as soon chooses to do, and I respect her decision - an example of the hurt it can do

When the AIDS panic flared up I was at a prayer meeting for the sick and troubled . The AIDS fear came up in the meeting, good people wanted gays stopped from sharing Holy Communion in our church , homosexuality was a sin but the fear of AIDS suddenly brought it to mind ! I was jumping, hoping mad and said if homosexuals were to be asked not to share the wine or have a seperate communion service I asked that I be included in the names of those who were to be excluded . These gays already had the terror of this illness hanging over them and now were to be treated as lepars . This is what sticking firmly to scripture can do

Sorry a personal post again but if it helps one person to think then worth any sarcasm which may come

Exactly the problem Annie - well done you for sticking to your guns; indeed standing by the oppressed - is that not in the bible somewhere?!

It's what Christ taught Luckygirl

So why did not your religious colleagues have that in their minds? - it is such a shame and as you rightly say, a prime example of what sticking to scripture can do.

A vicar friend of mine has a transsexual child - she is loved and accepted and supported in her decisions.

The Bible, as far as I know, doesnt say anything against bieng transsexual.

There is though against dressing up in clothes of the opposite sex.

The two are quite different things.

Oh dear - I had better take of my jeans and slip into a nice tea dress!

So do you never wear trousers or jeans soontobe?

Didn't they all wear robey things anyway in Biblical times?

Soon - please feel free to address the comments about homosexuality and fundamentalism raised above.

Perhaps she just doesn't wear men's trousers.

Look! If soon reads it in the bible that homosexuality is sinful, then that is her business. No one else's.

Left half of that post out. "and she accepts that and agrees with it"...

Alea. rthey are womens jeans and womens trousers.

Ana. I think so? Not sure.

Luckygirl. I am not apt to repeat myself. There has been a whole thread on the subject.

Does not a transsexual wear clothes of the opposite sex from the sex they have bern registered as ? So not a different thing surely ?

Get that dress on Lucky, I though will stay in my jeans

Jingle, if you had read my post in which I said I respected soons choice there would have no need for you to give out instructions on what others should or should not accept

Deuteronomy Chapter 22 verse 5. My BIL's favourite text!!

Different thing Ab.

I would imagine that if you looked hard enough there would be an OT pronouncement on gender but maybe they just stoned them first, so it he issue didn't really arise.
I find Jewish pronouncements on women covering their heads and only letting their husbands see their hair a curious anomaly, especially whenI see many women in and around Hampstead/Golders Green in very obvious wigs.
However, they do not seek to impose their strictures on us Gentiles so I shouldn't really complain.

Nothing about uni sex clothes in Deuteronomy that I can recall
Juliette, so who is in and who is sinning, male or female

Why different soon?

You say "women's trousers" soontobe, in the days of Joan of Arc just wearing breeches was seen as heresy, so you could argue that there is no such thing as "women's men's garments"

I was replying to the most recent posts ab. I most certainly haven't read much of this silly, backbiting, thread. And I will post what I like whether you consider there is a "need" for it or not. Ok?