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We shouldn't eat honey!

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Chestnut Tue 31-Mar-26 15:43:04

Well I never knew this, but eating honey actually harms the eco system.

Google confirms it:
"Consuming honey, particularly commercially produced honey, can contribute to the decline of wild bee populations, largely because the honey industry drives a high demand for managed honey bees (Apis mellifera), which directly compete with wild, native bees for resources. While many people keep bees to "save the bees," conservation scientists argue that this often harms biodiversity because honey bees are agricultural livestock, not endangered wildlife."

There are over 270 species of bee in the UK and 24 types of bumble bee and they are endangered. So anyone who loves wild bees should try to save them rather than eating commercially produced honey.

Just to add, there is a programme on BBC iPlayer called 'My Garden of a Thousand Bees' which is absolutely amazing and deserves an award. Start watching and you won't be able to stop.

Tanjamaltija Wed 01-Apr-26 15:31:29

This is too absolute and alarmist. Why don't we plant more flowers / flowering trees and shrubs? And herbs like thyme, borage, lavender, clover and wild fennel? The most effective actions are simple, cheap, and science-backed. If you want the biggest impact with minimal effort:
Plant native flowering plants;
Don’t use pesticides;
Let part of your space grow naturally... do not remove dandelions etc.

Sueinkent Wed 01-Apr-26 15:31:35

I will stop eating honey when google stops consuming massive amounts of energy.

silverlining48 Wed 01-Apr-26 15:31:44

When my grandchildren were babies/ young they weren’t allowed to have honey. I was never sure why.

Sueinkent Wed 01-Apr-26 15:32:59

Oh and stop cutting down trees to accomodate huge data centres. Planting trees is the solution to climate change.

Allira Wed 01-Apr-26 15:33:48

suelld

And if imported from New Zealand where the country is fast and the bees not particularly endangered?

Unfortunately New Zealand bee populations are endangered due to several factors, one being the Varroa mite which has almost completely eliminated feral bees. Honeybees are almost entirely dependent on bee keepers.
I haven't seen much New Zealand honey on the shelves in the UK for some time.

It's not a vast country, although it is far less densely populated than the UK. People are being encouraged to plant more pet-friendly flowers.

Allira Wed 01-Apr-26 15:34:31

Not part friendly!!

Bee-friendly

ViceVersa Wed 01-Apr-26 15:34:49

silverlining48

When my grandchildren were babies/ young they weren’t allowed to have honey. I was never sure why.

You're not supposed to give honey to babies under the age of one because there is a risk of infant botulism.

Allira Wed 01-Apr-26 15:35:22

Autocorrect is going berserk today.

(It just changed berserk to Western 😀)

silverlining48 Wed 01-Apr-26 15:36:41

Ah, thanks VV. I am sure I knew that once upon a long time ago.

MrsMatt Wed 01-Apr-26 15:49:21

Maremia

Honey has been consumed by humans for millennia.

But we haven't been using pesticides that kill bees for millennia.

MibsXX Wed 01-Apr-26 15:51:41

yeah but now there are far too many humans.....

mokryna Wed 01-Apr-26 15:52:45

I don’t eat it because after allergy tests on the skin it was found, surprisingly, I am allergic to honey. It is so rare it cannot be tested through the blood, as such a test does not exist.

FranP Wed 01-Apr-26 15:56:56

What is causing the problem in the South East, is the decimation of the hedgerows by massive housing developments. I guess that is not a problem in China.

I grow a garden full of snowdrops and crocus to help the early bees. Although we have local hives, mine and white bottomed bumble bees. Last year, they were out before many of the flowers, so I put tepid sugar water out - yes not great but it does keep them alive. They love my daffodils too and will come back for the bluebells, even though by then only the young are not too fat to get in, but I have other flowers for them. Now the honey bees are all over the plum and apple blossom, but I will not see them until next year.

valdavi Wed 01-Apr-26 16:05:19

I have honey bees on the flowers all year round, but the thing they love most is the cordyline flowers (those huge, rather ugly cream sprays).

I don't know where they come from but would think they are hive bees rather than wild bees.

DevonshireSalop Wed 01-Apr-26 16:06:27

Thank goodness for my neighbour with a small holding. She gifts me honey at Christmas etc. I think it’s because I have to listen to their very noisy cockerel day and night !
My garden is also very popular with the bees 🐝

monami Wed 01-Apr-26 16:27:51

if god had not wanted us to eat honey he would not have given us bees

NannieChicken Wed 01-Apr-26 16:28:51

I'm presuming buying from local bee keepers is ok? I don't really like the taste of honey in its own but I do use it in breadmaking and cooking.

Missiseff Wed 01-Apr-26 16:44:51

I have it every day, I buy it from a local producer in a glass jar, not a plastic squeezy bottle from a supermarket

Geraldine7651 Wed 01-Apr-26 17:04:29

I am allergic to 🍯 honey , it brings me out in hives. 🤣
Couldn’t resist.
I am allergic to bees and honey though.

jocork Wed 01-Apr-26 17:07:06

ViceVersa

silverlining48

When my grandchildren were babies/ young they weren’t allowed to have honey. I was never sure why.

You're not supposed to give honey to babies under the age of one because there is a risk of infant botulism.

When my DD was a baby my MiL, who is a big fan of honey, scooped some honey on her finger and was about to stick it in her mouth! She didn't even ask me if it was ok and I only just got her away in time. We had been told not to give young babies honey and at the time she was being exclusively breastfed! MiL always thought she knew best!

jocork Wed 01-Apr-26 17:09:13

I only buy Manuka honey and use it if I get a sore throat. Otherwise I'm not fond of honey and certainly don't buy it as a regular food - just for medicinal purposes.

undines Wed 01-Apr-26 17:58:11

We mustn't eat honey, or meat, or eggs, etc etc etc
We must subsist on lab-grown stuff from the likes of Bill Gates
Get local honey and forget the nonsense.

vegansrock Wed 01-Apr-26 18:07:12

Where has anyone said we must eat lab grown stuff?
Most on here have said avoid over processed supermarket food.
Without care for the environment you won’t have bees.

mulberry7 Wed 01-Apr-26 18:19:58

I know someone who suffered a lot from hay fever, until it was recommended that he eat locally-produced honey, and it cured him.

DollyRocker Wed 01-Apr-26 18:50:57

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/insight/british-honey-found-tainted-with-potent-drugs/gm-GM540D8C87?gemSnapshotKey=GM540D8C87-snapshot-1&uxmode=ruby