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j07 Fri 18-Jan-13 17:23:54

Can you sort that Mumsnet lot out please.

They've deleted a thread we were working out perfectly well ourselves.

Ana Fri 18-Jan-13 20:40:33

And what happened to the warning? Why no explanation? confused
That isn't really a proper explanation, Geraldine.

jeni Fri 18-Jan-13 21:01:35

No ! And I want a reply to my pm please!

POGS Fri 18-Jan-13 23:10:01

I have no idea what threads were deleted but I have posted on this matter before.

I was having a GN accuse me of various things which were untrue and the thread was quite nasty. I was dealing with it but GN deleted the thread. I urged GN to reinstate the thread as I felt the other GN's should see for themselves what had been said and my response. By deleting the thread the poster had made her feelings known and the damage was done.

I urge G.N. to consider leaving such threads and openly chastise the offending poster/posters to defend the GN who is being aggrieved. If, as I was, not aware of the comments on the day, then it is an unfair position to be in. Nobody should be spoken of behind their back in a derogatory manner without the right to defend themselves. Delete a post, yes, delete a thread, no.

j07 Fri 18-Jan-13 23:12:16

" the other because another poster was the subject of a personal attack."

And which poster was that? And who made the "personal attack"? And are you quite sure it was an attack on the actual poster. Not on (good old fall-back) the post?

j07 Fri 18-Jan-13 23:14:00

If you are commenting on my mention of "bitchy remarks", if you took the trouble to read a bit more of the thread you will see I took the trouble to try and put that right. I said I shouldn't have said that.

It seems you have differing policies, depending on which poster you are responding to.

Ana Fri 18-Jan-13 23:15:36

Quite. The only time I have reported a post (other than spam) was one which seemed to me to be a personal attack, but was dismissed by GNHQ as 'only an attack on the poster's comments'. What's the difference, really? hmm

j07 Fri 18-Jan-13 23:18:30

If Geraldine you are now all tucked up in your pink pyjamas, then a reply on Monday will be fine.

jeni Fri 18-Jan-13 23:24:01

I totally agree with the previous posts. Particularly iro the pm I received!

Faye Fri 18-Jan-13 23:25:17

I am surprised the thread has been deleted when others have not. One in particular where I complained because a thread was set up just to tell a poster off. The poster was blamed for something she didn't do. Another case of people getting it wrong, but it wasn't nice at all and if anything should be deleted that one should have been. I am totally confused

MiceElf Sat 19-Jan-13 07:09:24

Ana, I have had precisely the same experience. There seems to be a distinct lack of consistency.

Bags Sat 19-Jan-13 07:18:12

The referee's decision is final. Whether it's right or not is another issue.

Referees are only human.

absent Sat 19-Jan-13 08:30:38

Let's not start dragging up grievances from the past, whether they are justified or not. It won't achieve anything except to upset some and confuse others.

Butty Sat 19-Jan-13 08:37:28

I'm a great believer in the 'letting go' of hurt and upset. I don't find it easy, but try to practice it because I feel it gives me a deeper understanding of myself and others.

Gally Sat 19-Jan-13 08:57:48

I have been observing recent conversations from the safety of the sidelines. I can't understand why intelligent grown up women become so het up and metaphorically beat each other up. Surely we are capable of putting our points without incurring the bitchiness and nastiness of the playground? However, it seems to me that now Matron has stepped in and deleted some threads it smacks of Big Brother Sister sad

janeainsworth Sat 19-Jan-13 09:10:50

geraldine firstly I agree with bags that moderators' decisions are final, and we have to accept that sometimes you won't get it completely right.
I agree too with POGS and others who have said that it is one thing to delete a post which some may find offensive, but quite another to delete a whole thread.
That's unnecessary censorship in my view, and is unfair on those who have contributed without being unpleasant to anybody.
It also changes the whole atmosphere of the forum. I don't want people posting deliberately hurtful things but there needs to be spontaneity and an opportunity for people to make amends themselves if they have overstepped the mark of what general opinion would find unacceptable.
If moderators step in and remove entire threads then that just breeds suspicion and resentment.

j07 Sat 19-Jan-13 09:29:29

"I'm a great believer in the 'letting go' of hurt and upset. I don't find it easy, but try to practice it because I feel it gives me a deeper understanding of myself and others." (quote Butty)

Yes but it's the thing about leopards and spots, isn't it?

A noble sentiment nonetheless.

j07 Sat 19-Jan-13 09:37:05

Also Geraldine, are you sure the remark (whatever it was) was aimed at one particular poster and not several? Because that is the reason you gave me on a previous thread for NOT deleting a comment which was obviously aimed at me personally.

celebgran Sat 19-Jan-13 10:03:36

totally baffled and confused, maybe all will be revealed on Monday?
not sure what Mumsnet got to do with it all ? sorry must have missed all the the problems perhaps as well!!

j07 Sat 19-Jan-13 10:08:46

Mumsnet has nothing to do with it. We seem to share Geraldine with the Other Place. (probably because we don't make enough mnoney)

Why don't they advertise with us? confused What happened to the "grey pound"?

POGS Sat 19-Jan-13 13:57:42

janeainsworth

You put it a little better than I did, that's what I meant too.

Movedalot Sat 19-Jan-13 14:11:45

What happens when a thread is deleted for the stated reason? Do the people who have been attacked and done the attacking get a message to tell them the thread has been deleted and why?

I agree with what others have said above.

katykat Sat 19-Jan-13 15:22:37

Message deleted by Gransnetfor breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

Carigransnet (GNHQ) Sat 19-Jan-13 15:52:31

When we receive reports of posts that may/may not confirm to our guidelines we always look at them carefully both from the POV if the poster and the person who has reported (well unless it's blatant spam if course )

We avoid deleting posts (and indeed threads) where we can and acknowledge the fact that different people can read different things very...well differently. That, of course, is where intonation and facial expression comes in so very handy.

Now I need to get up to speed on this particular thread as I haven't been around for a couple of days - but I did wang to post today so that no one thought we had done a runner

(As if)

Ana Sat 19-Jan-13 15:57:04

confused

Katykat's post was exactly the same as Cari's....

Carigransnet (GNHQ) Sat 19-Jan-13 15:59:40

Hey ana - in the grip of a techniCal glitch which will teach me not to press buttons I don't understand on iPad when admin panel tool comes up. It's me and I'm not entirely sure what I did but I think - hope - all ok now.