Moderation and deleting posts

^ I just can't be bothered to debate at this level - the low altitude gives me a headache.^

How very rude!

Blimey! I go out for the day and come back to this.
Just for the record, like absent I too would like to dissociate myself from the post saying that everyone doubted that GT is nicer in RL than on the forum. Can't be bothered to look back and see whose post it was.
I haven't met GT in RL but I am happy to give her the benefit of the doubt and more importantly, I don't like the idea of the whole of Gransnet ganging up on one particular member.

I agree with janea and absent. Nobody can claim to speak for me.

Cari said that because of the volume of posts on the site, Gransnet does to some extent rely on Gransnetters to flag up posts which they feel may contravene the guidelines.

GrannyTwice stated her views about certain posts and why she felt they were unacceptable. She also said that she had reported them. As I think absent said, possibly other Gransnetters had also reported them.

rosequartz You said to GrannyTwice "you are as free as you like to be "class sneak", the clear inference being that GT, and presumably anyone else reporting a post, is a "class sneak".

rosesarered You say you don't like being bullied. You said in response to GrannyTwice's comment, "hmm, why do we all doubt that?". Bullies commonly try to isolate a person from a group, putting them at odds with the group and creating a sort of "gang mentality". As a few others have said, you cannot speak for "all" on this site - and you don't speak for me either.

POGS I don't know where you got your assurances that your comments were not libellous but, as Cari indicated, the issue of libel is particularly complex and Gransnet is unlikely to want to retain posts that might have the possibility of being libellous.

Well said Eloethan

ja - "the whole of Gransnet". Hardly, not even on the actual thread.
Though I someetimes wonder if there should be a limit put on the number of posters who are allowed to disagree on one thread with another poster. Though dont see how that would work really.

Eloethan - I assume that she gets it from gransnet HQ[she has said that she had lots of emails over the weekend]. I cant see where else it would come from.

* Gransnet is unlikely to want to retain posts that might have the possibility of being libellous.*
That part has been left hanging in the air. I assume that if a poster wants a post to stay, but gransnet does not, then it has to go?
From what gransnet said, they are going to look into changing words, so we may have to see what comes out of it all.

The voice of common sense Eloethan.
I have come late to this but it seems a very unpleasant thread.
It makes me even more convinced than anything that is too personal and could identify a person should not be posted.

I think that this thread[and may be this is not the thread to discuss it], has brought up the issue of whether and when it is ok for posters to post identifiying details, and are quite happy to do so, and want them left to stand.

gransnet HQ post effectively said that that is ok.
It seems like they are happy to delete, but the poster is allowed to repost the same thing if the poster is happy to do so, having thought about it some more.

So both POGS and phoenix[if she wanted], can repost if they are happy to do so. So long as they say that they have been told it is fine to do so.
[by whom I wasnt exactly sure].
It looks to me, that POGS can repost.

soontobe What you have posted in the last couple of you posts is totally incomprehensible. Please would you clarify what you are talking about as none of it makes one iota of sense to me.

Soontobe you seem to be terminally confused.
If someone has had a post deleted because it breaks the rules or risks legal action and they re-posted it, they could get them selves banned from GN.
If people do not want to be anonymous that is fine (I am not a fan of anonymity online myself and my identity is no secret.)
If people want to pour their identifiable hearts out, that is also fine as long as they are aware that it is like writing the details on big sheets of paper and posting them on their front lawn.
Revealing identifiable details about other private individuals is never a good idea.
roseqartz you too seem to be confused. The people in the GN office are busy, they do not sit there all day filing their nails and reading the forums. They are working on all the other bits of the site. They rely on members to let them know of anything that has been posted that they need to check. It is not sneaking - just sharing the responsibility for keeping the forums civilised. And this is one of the more civilised ones.

JessM. I dont think I am terminally confused. Look at the end of Cari's third paragraph.

I'm terminally confused. Pompa is dragged off by men in white coats, gibbering quietly to himself .

Sounds like JessM thinks I should join you!

Correct me if I am wrong (and somebody surely will) but I thought Cari's point about reposting hinged on the phrase in the public domain
I also think the relevance of "identifying details" applies if one is saying e.g. "My next door neighbour" when that individual's identity should not be revealed. Not the identity of the member, at least 2 write under their own name, anonymity being optional.
Eloethan , JaneA and JessM have been models of sanity and clarity, let's not confuse the issue or bring this down to the level of what in Scotland might be called "a stair heid brawl" by including personal insults about whether any unspecified group think someone is "nicer" in RL - that does sound like stirring.

Pompa invites STB to share his padded cell (single beds of course)

If what you are saying is true, then there is nothing wrong with either phoenix's post or POGS, I would have thought.
So why were they deleted?

It looks like I need to be on my way today!

Isn't it against the guidelines to assert that someone is "terminally confused"?

There are several blatant insults on this thread. I don't believe no one at HQ is keeping an eye on it. myself!

phoenix take no notice, GT should apologise to you for her rude outburst, I have read lots of your posts and you seem a kind,caring, and genuine person. Please don't let this upset you.

rosequartz I agree with your comments.

I am the same in real life as I am on this forum.

I seem to remember that when a GNetter suggested that someone else's mental capacity was in doubt a couple of years ago, that post was very quickly deleted as it was deemed a personal attack - How times have changed!

gT has upset a lot of people with her posts on this and other threads. Phoenix and POGS do not deserve all this at all.

Magpie, I agree with you all the way.

I don't think it is helpful to come on the thread sympathising with one aggrieved party personally. Isn't that what PMs are for.

I agree with ja. This thread has taken on a bullying tone.

Ceesnan yes. I sometimes wonder if the moderators need moderating!

I used to be on a forum, much smaller than GN, the moderators were solicited from the members of the forum. Not a good situation, so biased.