GNHQ here - please read

Jane Occasionally there are also unfamilar posters whose posts are not well received. People find their stories don't hang together, or show the poster in a bad light - and say so (politely) in their replies. The original poster then lams into them for ganging up on them, trolling and being unbearably cruel and so on. I suspect the troll in some of those cases is the original poster, dangling bait and then attacking anyone who rises to it.

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Elegran good post

I’m loving the civilised debate going on, in all the politics threads at the moment??.

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Never saw either poster before, or again it would seem.

EllanVannin

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I don’t like it when posters don’t answer questions, it happens to me a lot ! This is why I am responding to your question and the answer is I don’t know !

Elegran Yes we have had those!
I think at one time, there was a code word or phrase that some posters used to alert others to the presence of a potential troll.
Unfortunately they weren’t always accurate in their assessment, and some poor souls whose bizarre histories were actually genuine wondered why they were being met with apparent hostility.

My own yardstick is to try to view a post in the best possible light & not assume malice where perhaps none is intended, but very occasionally it’s obvious that it is.

Whitewavemark2

I’m loving the civilised debate going on, in all the politics threads at the moment??.

Yes, I have really been enjoying that debate also Whitewavemark2. Unfortunately, we are on holiday this week (staycation) and my good wife is now dragging me out the door. ???

So I will have to leave that debate now until later, but I would encourage anyone who wishes to see GN at it's best to look at that thread.

I mean, when Whitewavemark2 and myself agree on anything of late, the world must be changing. ?

I came to this yesterday when it was already degenerating into something quite unpleasant with many deletions, only to return this morning to find that is being rendered nearly incomprehensible by the number of deleted threads. What was a quite measured request by GN to be mindful of how we respond to others without resorting to overcritical and/or personal attacks has become just that. It would appear that there are those who are determined to derail and upset whenever possible whatever the subject.

Given the number of threads deleted on here it proves GNHQ's point that often conversations do not observe respect and consideration for other posters. What a shame that his has turned into exactly what they were advising against.

Thank you Lara I certainly have begun a less frequent poster . I used to be a regular but when I raised the issue a couple of weeks ago I was immediately jumped on. We live in difficult times and Grasnet can be such a positive thing its a shame to spoil it.

This has gone beyond a joke GNHQ
We take your point about accusations of bullying or trolling (but why is that a word that may not be uttered, like Voldemort?) but frankly there are now so many deleted posts , the thread makes no sense whatsoever.
You have to let people discuss/argue, if necessary/ complain/ defend themselves.
By all means operate zero tolerance of racist or any other sort of attacks, inflammatory language, slander or libel, but right now it is time to stop letting the Office kitten play on the keyboard and especially on the delete button
That is not moderating, that is nannying.

Absolutely agree with you Lara. It's such a shame when a thread takes a nasty turn. People sometimes get a bit carried away don't they? There's no need for it, I don't understand why we can't agree to disagree really? No need for handbags at dawn eh?

Evie64

Absolutely agree with you Lara. It's such a shame when a thread takes a nasty turn. People sometimes get a bit carried away don't they? There's no need for it, I don't understand why we can't agree to disagree really? No need for handbags at dawn eh?

I'm not allowed to discuss deleted posts, but I can discuss posts which weren't deleted. Th deleted posts weren't nasty. They were deleted because they referenced one post.

Now it looks as though those who had posts deleted were being nasty. We weren't. If they were still there, people could read for themselves.

Now it looks as though those who had posts deleted were being nasty. We weren't. If they were still there, people could read for themselves
Thanks Growstuff.
I think GNHQ should be more clear about why posts are deleted. When you’ve taken the trouble to explain to someone why they’re under a misapprehension and have phrased your post carefully to avoid any risk of upsetting them, it’s rather annoying to have your post deleted along with the implication that it contained something spiteful or unpleasant.
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Spot on MawB. I’ve had a post deleted...can’t remember what it was even !!

I had someone follow me across two separate threads, jumping on innocuous remarks four times in half an hour in a sneaky underhand way. Clearly trying to goad me into an angry response. It’s not the first time this person has done this.

In light of this thread I reported all four incidents. None of them in themselves were delectable, I concur, but sometimes GNHQ need to look beyond their ‘guidelines’ and actually try to understand what is really happening.

furret that used to happen to me, but I called that person out in big capital letters. It stopped??

Interesting WW

Someone accused me of doing that once. I honestly am not interested enough to do it to anyone in real life, let alone online.

More interesting that they’d read that into random patterns though. More a causes for concern about the mental health of posters, given the demographic of the site.

GagaJo

Someone accused me of doing that once. I honestly am not interested enough to do it to anyone in real life, let alone online.

More interesting that they’d read that into random patterns though. More a causes for concern about the mental health of posters, given the demographic of the site.

Bit naughty. I’m sure you are not suggesting that my mental health is dodgy.

Rather than accuse someone of mental health issues, it is much more productive to get into dialogue and understanding and sort the issue out.

Dont you you think?

I agree Furret and perhaps that is why GNHQ have started this thread.

I joined GN more than 7 years ago and have seen an increase in unpleasant posts, stalking and bullying in the last year. It's not a question of whether or not someone is able to defend themselves.

The vast majority of GN's are here to debate, yes at times robustly; to ask for help and/or support and to give help and/or support when they can and for light hearted conversation. Why on earth should anyone ever have to defend themselves from personal criticism from people they've never even met?

I still receive pm's from members who left the forum some time ago because of the way they were initially responded too, but still need someone to 'talk' too.

New members appear briefly and are never seen again and some who've been posting for sometime just seem to disappear.

Haha, WWM. I just meant, that given we’re mostly elderly on this site, loneliness and possibly vulnerability can be an issue. Leading to reading too much into what was in my case (the accusation) a random occurance of posts.

I’m assuming it wasn’t me you accused of trolling/stalking, because if it was, I didn’t see your reply.