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LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 07-Jul-20 11:27:47

Hello, GNHQ here, (waving a white flag).

We need your help. As many of you have probably noticed the conversations over the past few days have been increasingly tense. The questions posed have been so interesting and worthy of debate but so often the conversations have derailed and turned into personal attacks (the veiled ones can be particularly unkind). We hate deleting threads when people have taken time and effort to contribute and it must be equally wearing for you all to wade through mean-spirited posts. We'd really like to get back to conversations that include debate/disagreement but that also show a bit of respect and consideration for other posters even if you disagree with them.
Thank you for reading. smile
GNHQ

FarNorth Fri 10-Jul-20 12:45:15

Aldom, I know what you mean about not wanting to be jumped on while you are feeling fragile.
Have you tried Soop's Kitchen, or the Good Morning & Good Evening threads if you just fancy a chat?
There is a 'Bereavement' section of the forum, which might be helpful to you.

Elegran Fri 10-Jul-20 12:49:58

JaneAinsworth I missed your deleted post (all of the deleted ones on this thread, actually) and I made the assumption that, except for the direct attacks, they quoted a bit of the attacking posts while making their point that that they were personal.

I have seen that on many controversial threads - someone says something like "How dare you post that my mother was a hamster and my father smelt of elderberries!' and that gets deleted as well os the original insult. I should have assumed nothing but in my defence, I didn't think that GNHQ would have deleted something that only commented that the attacker was wrong in believing she had been trolled! Mere mention of the EXISTENCE of trolls and the unlikelihood of a specific inceident being evidence of one is noe a hanging offence!

GagaJo Fri 10-Jul-20 12:52:06

I think you should write all our insults Elegran. That hamster one is hilarious.

Elegran Fri 10-Jul-20 12:57:04

growstuff I have replied to JaneAinsworth's post and refer you to it. I assumed the GNHQ were deleting a quote from the deleted post. That is what used to happen previously, but I should have assumed nothing.

I would hope that GN would look carefully at possible trolling and judge whether it is that or not, and also judge reported posts each on their own merits, not in an arbitrary wa, based on the inclusion of a list of buzzwords. They are not the only site to apply blind judgments - the other day I mentioned the dreadful word ess ee ex somewhere and got my fingers rapped!

Elegran Fri 10-Jul-20 12:58:06

GaagJo I pinched it from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Jane10 Fri 10-Jul-20 12:58:53

I've just been threatened to be reported to GNHQ. Sigh. I won't be be bludgeoned into agreeing with posters that disagree with points I wish, and am entitled, to make. Judging by the sympathetic PMs I'm not alone but others are afraid to agree on the forum for fear of being jumped on.

Elegran Fri 10-Jul-20 13:02:36

I haven't seen that, Jane Was it on the forum or in a PM?

FarNorth Fri 10-Jul-20 13:05:27

Oh, dear.
This is going well, isn't it.

If someone says "You've got it all wrong" to me, then fair enough.
If they say "You're a raving lunatic" that's not so good, but I just wonder if they were talking to themselves on that occasion.

growstuff Fri 10-Jul-20 13:11:58

Elegran

growstuff I have replied to JaneAinsworth's post and refer you to it. I assumed the GNHQ were deleting a quote from the deleted post. That is what used to happen previously, but I should have assumed nothing.

I would hope that GN would look carefully at possible trolling and judge whether it is that or not, and also judge reported posts each on their own merits, not in an arbitrary wa, based on the inclusion of a list of buzzwords. They are not the only site to apply blind judgments - the other day I mentioned the dreadful word ess ee ex somewhere and got my fingers rapped!

From what I remember, I did quote a deleted post, which presumably is why my (and other) posts were deleted. OK! So those are the rules. I should have been more careful.

What has aggrieved me slightly is that people can see that I have had a post deleted and assumed (wrongly) that it was "nasty", when it wasn't. I'm glad it's sorted now.

I hope I haven't broken any rules by referring to the deletion, but I did feel that it needed clearing up.

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 13:15:08

FarNorth

Oh, dear.
This is going well, isn't it.

If someone says "You've got it all wrong" to me, then fair enough.
If they say "You're a raving lunatic" that's not so good, but I just wonder if they were talking to themselves on that occasion.

grin

Elegran Fri 10-Jul-20 13:19:00

I agree with you, Growstuff Unless a post is likely to land GN or the poster in trouble with legalities, it is better to let it stand, with some addition by GN that it breaks their guidelines, so that the aggression of the poster is revealed . If they can't do that, then perhaps they could somehow mark any quote of the offending words with a reminder that repeating an insult only perpetuates it in everyone's memory.

GagaJo Fri 10-Jul-20 13:42:59

Interestingly, everytime I make a comment about Trump it gets deleted, while anyone can say anything they like about Meghan Markle. Why are GNHQ scared of Trump? Has he got a blanket ban on social media comments, threatening legal action?

I wonder if they'll delete THIS comment?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 10-Jul-20 14:06:38

Jane10

I've just been threatened to be reported to GNHQ. Sigh. I won't be be bludgeoned into agreeing with posters that disagree with points I wish, and am entitled, to make. Judging by the sympathetic PMs I'm not alone but others are afraid to agree on the forum for fear of being jumped on.

I am jumped on so often I am beginning to think I must have been a -trampoline in a previous life!?

Chewbacca Fri 10-Jul-20 14:16:54

GagaJo

Interestingly, everytime I make a comment about Trump it gets deleted, while anyone can say anything they like about Meghan Markle. Why are GNHQ scared of Trump? Has he got a blanket ban on social media comments, threatening legal action?

I wonder if they'll delete THIS comment?

Good grief GagaJo; if posts about his Trumpiness are going to get deleted, they'll have to have someone poised with their finger over the delete button for a very long time! I've not seen a supporter for him ever! grin

Lucca Fri 10-Jul-20 14:29:30

There are trump supporters on GN I reckon but not brave enough to admit it !

Charleygirl5 Fri 10-Jul-20 14:29:54

Chewbacca certainly not in this country- his supporters thankfully are a long way away.

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 14:31:35

I must check to see if mine was deleted.

his Trumpiness grin

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 14:33:28

GrannyGravy13

Jane10

I've just been threatened to be reported to GNHQ. Sigh. I won't be be bludgeoned into agreeing with posters that disagree with points I wish, and am entitled, to make. Judging by the sympathetic PMs I'm not alone but others are afraid to agree on the forum for fear of being jumped on.

I am jumped on so often I am beginning to think I must have been a -trampoline in a previous life!?

Oh dear.

The Norty Corner is getting over-crowded.
Move along please, make room.

Chewbacca Fri 10-Jul-20 14:33:51

Surely by now, even his most ardent admirers and supporters must be regretting that he was voted in? If he does have supporters in the UK, I'd imagine that they don't admit it due to embarrassment Lucca! But, there's nowt so queer as folk.....

GillT57 Fri 10-Jul-20 14:47:00

Aldom please do not confuse the boisterousness of the political threads with other threads. Many on here will testify that they have received much kindness and a great deal of help during their darkest hours. The political threads are not for the faint hearted, but some of us do enjoy robust debate and are also capable of empathy and kindness on other matters. Please stay and join us, and I am so sorry to read of the loss of your son. flowers

Rufus2 Fri 10-Jul-20 14:47:57

am jumped on so often I am beginning to think I must have been a -trampoline in a previous life
GG13 So that's why so many posters are hitting the roof!grin

GrannyGravy13 Fri 10-Jul-20 14:50:18

My condolences Aldom ?

There are lots of kind people on GN give it a go ??

GrannyGravy13 Fri 10-Jul-20 14:51:05

Rufus you may be correct ???

Lucca Fri 10-Jul-20 15:10:10

Chewbacca

Surely by now, even his most ardent admirers and supporters must be regretting that he was voted in? If he does have supporters in the UK, I'd imagine that they don't admit it due to embarrassment Lucca! But, there's nowt so queer as folk.....

I just thought I got a hint of support for tangerine tornado other day but maybe wrong.....

Rufus2 Fri 10-Jul-20 15:11:36

Good Evening threads if you just fancy a chat
FarNorth Thank you very much for the free plug! smile
"Chat" is really what it's all about, no nastiness, no grudges!
Obviously, it has a strong Aussie flavour (like me for instance!), which naturally is of no interest to some members, but we like to think of it acting as a conduit for the exchange of news in these troubled times and of course it's free and open to all.
Thanks again and Good Health.
OoRoo