Rules - Mumsnet & Gransnet discrepancies

You should email Gransnet FC, you’re more likely to get an explanation that way. I don’t think they’re the same though. Different target audiences.

I thought that GN was a subsidiary of MN.
I also thought that contributors to the site may want be interesting to hear about the 'gossip and speculation' rule.

Sorry for the terrible sentence above.
Hope you get my drift!

I would imagine it means that someone reported on GN and not on MN.

Galaxy so stuff gets deleted because it's reported rather than against guideline?
Would it be more apt to say that 'we are deleting because its unpopular', or something?
(These questions aren't directed at you, btw, I'm just referring to your comment!)

No it breaks guidelines on both sites it's just one isnt noticed. I am guessing here mind I have no access to how GNHQ or MNHQ think! My guess is people on GN are more likely to report comments about the royal family due to ideas of respect etc whereas on MN it is not seen in the same way, more like an ongoing episode of eastenders.

Thank you for taking time to reply.
It needs to be in the Talk Guidelines then if 'rumour and speculation' isn't allowed?
I'm don't have much to do with the RF threads because I'm a bit 'over' it all, but I do have the odd peek. I'm sure that there is much G&S (not Gilbert & Sullivan) elsewhere?
I mention this to HQ and got the reply to report anything and that they'd take a look'.
Obviously, and of course, I've got absolutely no intention to do that.

I'm not singling out the RF threads either btw.
I'm sure that there is rumour and speculation on some News & Politics threads, for another instance.

We've had a number threads over the years about the differences in applying rules & guidelines on GN and MN.

In my opinion, GN's aim is to keep this site 'nice' and appeal more to gentle older folk who are conservative (small or large C), royalists, cake makers, wear sensible shoes and whose opinions are mainly formed by watching daytime TV from dawn till dusk.

It's an outdated concept - but their forums, their rules.

I can go one better. I made a light hearted topical joke about a capon on a thread on Gransnet. Within 10 mins it was removed and I was sent a warning email. I was furious and the resulting argument got me banned for a week.
A few months later on another thread I deliberately posted the same definition to see how quickly it would be deleted. It wasn’t.
This suggests to me that someone reporting you is the criteria.
Problem is this can be done anonymously. I have on occasion reported a post myself. I usually then post “reported” within the thread. If you don’t do that then the individual has no idea who reported them so this can be used vindictively.
The solution is for us all to petition GNHQ to specify who reported it when a deletion is made.

Well of course it would remain if no one reported it because they wouldnt know about it. That joke would have lasted 3 seconds on MN every single time. It depends on the nature of what is seen as important on each site by its members.
Under no circumstances would I want reporting identified, I reported every bizarre troll a number of times, I certainly wouldnt want them knowing I reported them.

A very bizarre troll that should say.

They are the same company yes, but with a different ( older ) demographic.
As Galaxy said, gransnetters are more likely to respect the Royal family and report posts they feel are hurtful & gossipy.
And if HQ agree, the posts will go.
The rules are the same on both sites ( I think? ) but if lots of people reported your posts - even though they didn’t break the set in stone rules - HQ are obliged to have a look, and if they agree with all the reports they will delete them.
There’s stuff that gets posted on mumsnet that would never see the light of day on here. Not because they break talk guide lines, but because they appeal to a younger audience. I’m sure you know what I mean.

So in a nutshell - it’s all about how many reports a post gets as well as the ‘rules’ in regards to deletions.

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Thank you Riverwalk and Esspee
Yes, I too once made a light hearted joke which derived from The Windsors, it was misconstrued, and not wanting to upset anyone I reported myself and announced the fact.
Riverwalk yes, I agree, their site their rules, and I don't take it too seriously, but it would be better to be candid about it.
I suppose it's just too much work, and perhaps impossible, to be totally upfront and consistent.

Yes it’s all about being reported ( and maybe a bit to do with which site and which moderator deals with the report).

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I find the amount of reporting on here really snide and bitchy. Trolls yes, but I went back to read a thread a few days ago and there had obviously been some kind of spat between two members and a whole raft of posts had been deleted. So annoying.

Imo people may well judge a post as reportable based on their personal views of the poster concerned.

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Suzie or even just take a dislike to the cut of their jib!

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But surely posts can’t be deleted and posters even banned just because other posters say so? There must be moderation, with guidelines, e.g. racism, sexism, etc. One can’t surely just contact GNHQ and request a post be deleted, “because I don’t like if”?

I also would like to know if moderators look at the context of a reported post as sometimes it’s possible to discern some winding up going on and especially when a pile on happens that results in a post that’s then deleted whilst tge winder uppers are then all ?