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FannyCornforth Thu 18-Mar-21 01:53:27

Hello
Are Gransnet and Mumsnet the same 'company', and are posting rules the same?
What follows now is what prompted my to ask.

I had three comments deleted on Tuesday due to them 'breaking talk guidelines', more specifically because they were 'gossip and speculation'. I was told to 'bear this is mind before posting'.
(There is no mention of 'gossip and speculation' in the Talk Guidelines).

I was rather surprised, for reasons which shall become clear, and a teeny bit peeved; but took in on the chin and totally accepted it.

However, it later came to mind that I'd actually learnt said 'gossip and speculation' (which isn't allowed) on Mumsnet.

Furthermore, I learnt this 'gossip and speculation' on a very long running MN thread from 2019, which concerned another senior member of the Windsor's alleged affair.

This morning I searched on MN for the name of this second alleged mistress, and her name appears over eighty times in relation to the Royal Family member.

One of the thread titles in which she appears is '(Insert name here) alleged affair' and another is titled 'Why are the UK press silent about Royal Family Member's alleged affair?'

They are very long running threads and are still available. There are many more threads which discuss the issue.

So, to cut a long story short; are talk guidelines the same on both sites, as it appears that they aren't.
I was under the impression that Gransnet and Mumsnet were one and the same.
Please can you shed some light on this?
Thank you very much!

Galaxy Thu 18-Mar-21 13:43:10

Hmmm not sure. I might let you share my edit button Iam64 smile

BlueBelle Thu 18-Mar-21 14:02:19

I m somewhat naive I think, I never knew reporting only was the way peoples posts were getting deleted or even banned that only became more obviously to me recently over the happenings we are not supposed to talk about
I think now that when I was called a ‘wicked old witch’ by a poster which didn’t get deleted, that was because no one reported it ...well I never knew that, I presumed Moderators just thought I was big enough to take it
Apart from adverts or scams I have rarely reported anything, once a very racist word which I then presumed brought to the attention of the mods who agreed with me. But I didn’t report the poster I reported what they had written
It’s scary if some people just keep reporting reporting reporting ...are the moderators so limited and easily persuaded
I ve never been on mumsnet so no idea of their rules and regs

AmberSpyglass Thu 18-Mar-21 14:09:36

The moderation is definitely stricter on MN as opposed to relying on individuals reporting, but that’s a much bigger cash cow forum.

StellaGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 18-Mar-21 14:09:48

Hi again, we do tend to remove posts that we feel aren't in the spirit of the site too, or that spread misinformation. Bluebelle, we're really sorry to hear that. A post like that should certainly have been deleted. Please do report anything like that to us.

Callistemon Thu 18-Mar-21 14:15:51

No - possible libel as well is an issue as are comments which might be racist etc. MN have been taken to court twice I believe and had to reveal the names of the posters concerned to the courts

A salutary lesson.

Callistemon Thu 18-Mar-21 14:27:25

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Lucca Thu 18-Mar-21 14:32:47

I’ve a feeling she was referring to someone else. But in any case ....no!

rafichagran Thu 18-Mar-21 14:34:36

lucca I most certainly was NOT referring to Jingle I liked her and said so on her sons post.
You jumped to the wrong conclusion and Jingle was someone I liked and was kind to me when other posters were not.
I dud not need to know she died, I already knew and was sad about it. Can you get that post removed please as you are wrong.

LauraNorder Thu 18-Mar-21 14:38:39

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

NellG Thu 18-Mar-21 14:39:38

There is a lot of useful info on this thread, please don't get it deleted. Not everyone is going to like everyone else, perhaps take it to PM if there's an issue here?

Callistemon Thu 18-Mar-21 14:45:37

Perhaps it is not my post that needs to be removed, rafichagran as your post is the one which makes insinuations about others and made me come to the wrong conclusion.

suziewoozie Thu 18-Mar-21 15:06:52

NellG

There is a lot of useful info on this thread, please don't get it deleted. Not everyone is going to like everyone else, perhaps take it to PM if there's an issue here?

This absolutely - I said earlier it was a good and useful thread. It all gets far too personal on GN too often - and yes, I include myself in this. I think we should keep away from discussing other threads in detail as it can beg a riposte.

Lucca Thu 18-Mar-21 15:09:24

Rafichagran I did not say anything about Jings. That was someone else

Callistemon Thu 18-Mar-21 15:20:59

I jumped to the wrong conclusion but I think it is unfair to discuss other posters, whoever they are, and make statements which are untrue when they are not here to defend themselves.

suziewoozie Thu 18-Mar-21 15:29:53

Callistemon

I jumped to the wrong conclusion but I think it is unfair to discuss other posters, whoever they are, and make statements which are untrue when they are not here to defend themselves.

This is what keeps happening on thread after thread, people jumping to conclusions, taking umbrage, accusing others of god knows what. I honestly really think the RF threads unleashed a torrent of nastiness which is out of control and infecting the whole site.People started saying anything they wanted on these threads based on rumour, gossip, speculation and now anything seems to go. Awful ( and yes I know I’m part of the problem but I least I know that)

JaneJudge Thu 18-Mar-21 15:35:59

I have refrained from posting on quite a few threads as I don't want to upset people and I don't to be upset myself. I think we have to bear in mind that we have all lived through a really unusual year and most of us (all of us) have had restrictions on seeing our family, some of us have lost family or friends and all of us are worried about someone else/ourselves. It is so easy to type something to someone without knowing their circumstances and what they are going through, what pushes their buttons, what doesn't. I honestly thought in the grand scheme of things what Fanny posted on that thread was tame, it didn't sound like it was posted to be spiteful and she seemed quite sad that people were being kept apart during coronavirus - if we want to look at it that way. It really doesn't take much effort to think positive rather than negative about someone. That isn't to say I am perfect though. It's quite obvious I have pushed a few people's buttons as they have become quickly defensive with me - warranted or not- but maybe we should all just think other people are dealing with their own shit at the moment, more than usual.

JaneJudge Thu 18-Mar-21 15:36:53

I am sorry in advance if that post offends anyone. I have been absolutely floored by having my covid vaccine yesterday! Thank god I didn't catch the bloody thing.

LauraNorder Thu 18-Mar-21 16:11:35

I have had my post deleted bev

LauraNorder Thu 18-Mar-21 16:17:03

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

suziewoozie Thu 18-Mar-21 16:23:08

LauraNorder

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our <a target="_blank" rel="noopener" href="https://www.gransnet.com/info/netiquette">Talk Guidelines.</a>

I might be wrong but HQ do I think keep an eye sometimes on threads they’ve commented on and/ or are in Site Stuff. I thought your post was asking for deletion as it was very specific to another thread. That’s an opinion btw not a judgement

LauraNorder Thu 18-Mar-21 16:24:50

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LauraNorder Thu 18-Mar-21 16:26:47

My fingers seem to grow fatter the more upset I get!
Thank you Suziewoozie..
At least I can hope that the original perpetrator and her supporters got the message.

suziewoozie Thu 18-Mar-21 16:37:52

I sometimes really wish I could start all over again on GN

JaneJudge Thu 18-Mar-21 16:39:27

now I am paranoid you have replied to me confused

suziewoozie Thu 18-Mar-21 16:41:24

JaneJudge

now I am paranoid you have replied to me confused

Which ‘you’ are you ( ie Jane) referring to ??