Rules - Mumsnet & Gransnet discrepancies

Hang on in there Nell, we want you to stay, you certainly add a bit of interest and variety. It was all getting a bit samey before you arrived.

Hear, hear!
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I'm sorry I didn't get to put this right earlier; I have been out and just seen your post. It wasn't a "mean message" Urmstongran, in the sense that is wasn't mean towards me. It was about how other members were posting; not something I wanted to be involved with.

Interestingly (or not ) on the groups I am in on Facebook it is deemed polite to let people in the group know that you are PMing them. In one of them, you are expected to ask the person (in the group) if you may. Mind you, it will probably be about buying a sewing/embroidery machine or where someone got a design/pattern from so not something the rest of the group will want or need to know.

Lucca

I’m honestly a bit confused as to what we are discussing on here ?
Too much reporting ? I’d say there must be if Nell has ended up with a yellow card
Some oversensitive people ? Probably.
Is there gossip and speculation ? Of course !! But I never knew it was banned.

Further to the 'gossip & speculation' reason given, yesterday I received an email signed from GNHQ
(I had not contacted them be email prior to this)
It was very curt, rude even, and said that my comments on the DoE thread were deleted because they were unkind
So first 'rumour & speculation' isn't allowed, now 'unkindness'

That’s very odd. I don’t know why what you said had to be deleted , I saw that posters objected and called you out on it but it could have stopped there surely?

The whole site will become very anodyne (hope that’s the right word) if we’re not careful!

So comments on a topic that is widely discussed on MN are not allowed on GN, because we are an older demographic?

Are we supposed to be more easily offended? Given the scorn poured on 'wokeness' on here, I would have thought that the 'older generation' would be more robust.

Also, since when did people's opinions on anything depend on their age group? I have a mind of my own, and sometimes I agree with both of my children, sometimes one and not the other, and sometimes not with either. The same applies to whether I agree with friends (who are of varying ages) and my husband.

It is very condescending for GN to assume that we are a homogeneous mass, if that is what they are doing. Surely the number of reported threads leading to the deletions they keep making are testament to the fact that we are not?

I'm beginning to dislike the word 'unkind' when uttered by an admonishing adult - it sounds so wimpy & pathetic, rather like poorly tummy.

Riverwalk

I'm beginning to dislike the word 'unkind' when uttered by an admonishing adult - it sounds so wimpy & pathetic, rather like poorly tummy.

Agree, like the “please be nice “ thing.
I think we may all have some intense verbal jousting but when the chips are down we are supportive, which makes it a shame posters have to be threatened with banning. And indeed banned.

I dont think it's to do with age doodledog, there are comments that stay on here that would last 3 seconds on MN so it works the other way round. It's to do with what gets reported.

Galaxy

I dont think it's to do with age doodledog, there are comments that stay on here that would last 3 seconds on MN so it works the other way round. It's to do with what gets reported.

Ah, that makes more sense.

I wonder why that is? If the rules are the same, surely a report of a post that is deemed non-offensive on one board should the deemed the same on the other.

Doodledog maybe different admin monitor MN from GN?

Hi all
I really, really didn't want to keep commenting on this, or indeed posting (NB not a flounce)
I honestly think that Galaxy is closest to the mark.
It's all about the reporting
My comments were deleted because they were reported (for whatever reason, what I said was incredibly tame compared to the M&H stuff)
and then a reason for their deletion had to be cobbled together
Hence the rude email from 'GNHQ' yesterday
NB prior to all of this, employees of HQ have been very nice, friendly and polite to me

The GNHQ post up thread says it's a post moderated site - so only the posts that are reported will be looked at. They also said they look at the thread and the context.

So it is dependent on both reporting and the interpretation of the person dealing with it at HQ? If their own guidelines are as vague as the ones we are supposed to follow it must be a difficult job and will always be somewhat arbitrary. Consequently it looks like posts stay or go according to the interpretation of people who only see a section, and don't always know all of the history. The only two ways 'we' can have any degree of influence over that is to report nothing, or report everything. The latter puts trust into something that's not looking massively consistent or reliable so far.

I know we aren’t allowed to raise the posters who used to be regulars, you know, the widow with the large dog, just as an example. She was banned after what many of us saw as a concerted attempt to goad a response, which was then immediately reported by the
I expect a this may be my first deleted post.

Iam64 don't worry, no posts on here so far have been deleted
I'm rather hoping that my boring title is keeping us under the radar of the 'reporters'

Fanny you were not unkind at all, bloody hell x
Please stay so we can have a black country poetry segment or even just regional dialect in literary, it's interesting. We could invite Frank...

A few at the beginning were deleted, but I think HQ have more than half an eye on this thread so they may not have been reported.

It's probably a bit worrying that my main expertise in life is an analysis of MN and GN

Iam64 don't worry, no posts on here so far have been deleted

There were some posts deleted earlier on.
I had one deleted as it was a post in defence of a banned poster and my post was not an attack on anyone. It wasn't clear in another deleted post to whom they were referring.

However, although GNHQ were very nice about the reason, it still said my post was against guidelines.
It could be that we are not supposed to refer to absent posters by name.

I expect this one will be deleted if it gets reported.
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Galaxy

It's probably a bit worrying that my main expertise in life is an analysis of MN and GN

Is this part of a PhD thesis?
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if we all start posting in regional dialect it will confuse them....
yaou woe see me no moower

Iam64. Yes it was so.

JaneJudge

if we all start posting in regional dialect it will confuse them....
yaou woe see me no moower

Yer munna do tha me owd duck
Ow bist?