MawBe
Can you explain groaning and thud please?
What I am meaning is that often in life generally if someone puts forward a new idea and is enthusiastic, then very often someone starts moaning and groaning and putting it down with a thud and often, though not always, makes it such that other people ignore the new idea because it seems controversial so they dare not express interest in case they get moaned at too.
The first time I observed this was in about 1960 in a model railway magazine. Someone had written a letter to the editor enthusing about his customisation of some models of multiple units (they were basically sort of Brunswick green in those days) and painted them orange with silver roofs.
A subsequent issue, a groan and thud letter from someone about if he ever tries to sell his stock.
Oh, oh, oh, the original writer was happy, there was no indication whatsoever that he would ever try to sell it. Just needless groaning and thud.
I remembered that when the first French TGV trains came out - orange with a silver roof.
Year later when the new A1 locomotive was proposed someone wrote dismissively that they'll never build the boiler.
Fortunately that groaning did not thud the project and 60163 Tornado was built and run.
So now it has been for the French threads. Groan and thud!
So no two threads for Italian or any other language.
The groaners have managed to thud the pleasure that the threads could have given.
And is this a TAAT and so likely to be zapped?