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Josianne Thu 09-Dec-21 13:29:28

Urmstongran today made a suggestion to GNHQ that the above two subjects should have their own threads. Apparently we have to register our approval or interest here.
So yes, please please, please.

JillyJosie2 Thu 09-Dec-21 17:25:26

And what about 'should Boris do the decent thing and resign?' which has been posted in Chat. Surely, there should be further alignments?
Posts about the Royal Family get very political but are they just news and if so why?
And Covid threads under Health?
AIBU often has political items posted too.
A revamp of the whole site? I'm being ironic in case I need to say it!

Calistemon Thu 09-Dec-21 17:26:14

Josianne perhaps the threads should be divided into 'News and Politics for Dimwits' and 'News and Politics for the Intellectually Superior'.

Perhaps posters could swap occasionally if they can tolerate the brickbats.

BlueBelle Thu 09-Dec-21 17:31:09

Totally WRONG Vegansrock and JillyJosie
You couldn’t be more wrong I am totally anti this government the very reason I DONT want every blooming news item to end up with political undertones Tory or Labour or anything else
If I want to talk about a dog biting a child, a car crash or a tree growing to an unusually massive height I DONT. wants to be told it’s political WHATEVER BLOOMING SHADE

lemongrove Thu 09-Dec-21 17:31:44

?Calistemon

lemongrove Thu 09-Dec-21 17:32:45

BlueBelle ????Agree totally.

Josianne Thu 09-Dec-21 17:33:37

Calistemon

Josianne perhaps the threads should be divided into 'News and Politics for Dimwits' and 'News and Politics for the Intellectually Superior'.

Perhaps posters could swap occasionally if they can tolerate the brickbats.

grin

MaizieD Thu 09-Dec-21 17:34:25

Josianne

vegansrock

It seems that most people who want to separate the two are those who don’t like to read criticisms of this government, as it’s becoming increasingly difficult to defend them.

My point, this whole discussion now becomes nitty picky political and it wasn't intended that way.

TBH, 'nit picky political' can happen on any forum.

I don't understand the 'minefield' comment earlier on. An alternative 'News' forum wouldn't prevent that, see my first sentence... There will never be a thread, on any of the forums, where political opinions won't be challenged ('challenge usually being at the root of 'minefield' comments).

EllanVannin Thu 09-Dec-21 17:36:10

Something is only political if you make it so.

Calistemon Thu 09-Dec-21 17:36:30

News or Politics?
It involves the NHS and a weapon of war.

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/bomb-squad-called-hospital-after-22355112

MaizieD Thu 09-Dec-21 17:37:16

If I want to talk about a dog biting a child, a car crash or a tree growing to an unusually massive height I DONT. wants to be told it’s political WHATEVER BLOOMING SHADE

Why can't you post things like that in 'Chat'? Because that's really what they are.

Calistemon Thu 09-Dec-21 17:38:35

My story above was News.

Chestnut Thu 09-Dec-21 17:44:53

I'm not so bothered about splitting news and politics as about getting Games removed to having their own tab at the top. They have nothing to do with a discussion forum and are really annoying.

Galaxy Thu 09-Dec-21 18:17:37

Trying to control what people say on the internet is very difficult unless you actually own an internet site. I thought we were all old enough to manage our own speech and didn't want GN interfering or has that changed.

Urmstongran Thu 09-Dec-21 18:20:14

I would like what is in the news tonight - Sienna Miller and her court case over phone hacking (just an example) under News. Which it is.

Politics threads can get very febrile. They put a lot of people off (apart from some aficionados - me included if I’m feeling brave!) but a lot of posters avoid the N&P like the plague.

Anyway why not give it a trial of say 3 months, then review? It can’t hurt!

Galaxy Thu 09-Dec-21 18:26:30

Because lots of people dont want it?

25Avalon Thu 09-Dec-21 18:30:16

I posted about the new Johnson baby girl under news because I thought that was what it was rather than chat. It was breaking news. It was not, however politics so a separate thread for News alone would have been the most appropriate.

BlueBelle Thu 09-Dec-21 18:30:45

MaizieD indeed I could post all the things I mentioned in Chat thread SO why not just have ‘POLITICS’ then I can avoid if I want
I d rather ‘News and Chat’ than ‘News and Politics’

Urmstongran Thu 09-Dec-21 18:34:02

But lots do Galaxy in my opinion.

I say - Let’s give it a trial run. ‘Footfall’ on the threads will persuade GNHQ either way, whether or not the change is popular. Then in 3 months they will either scrap the format or keep it if it’s popular.

Doodledog Thu 09-Dec-21 18:41:31

Am I the only one who uses 'Active Topics', rather than dipping from one forum to another? I just scan the screen and see which thread titles appeal - I don't check which forum they are in, which is why I think that measuring 'footfall' wouldn't prove much.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 09-Dec-21 18:48:04

Does that mean when the thread came up about the refugees who drowned we shouldn’t include any mention of this useless government. There is a crossover in most of the news and we shouldn’t restrict discussion and debate.

Ilovecheese Thu 09-Dec-21 18:53:32

No, Doodledog I just look at active topics as well.

Calistemon Thu 09-Dec-21 18:55:23

I expect GNHQ will decide.

Urmstongran Thu 09-Dec-21 18:56:39

True Cali. They will either split it or not.

BlueBelle Thu 09-Dec-21 18:58:57

barmeyoldbat of course not, but news can just be newsy for instance I m not interested myself but say a celebrity swims the channel, or a woman gets stung by 200 bees, or we have a heatwave why do things like that, more lighthearted news, have to piled in with the heavy political stuff

Parsley3 Thu 09-Dec-21 19:02:37

I do the same as you Doodledog. I usually look at the thread title but not the forum. A separate forum for the Royal Family would be good, though.