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Josianne Thu 09-Dec-21 13:29:28

Urmstongran today made a suggestion to GNHQ that the above two subjects should have their own threads. Apparently we have to register our approval or interest here.
So yes, please please, please.

ayse Thu 09-Dec-21 19:05:21

Like others I look at the active threads. I can’t see the point in separating news and politics either.

Chat about non-political news stories can go on Chat. If it’s popular it’ll stay in the active category.

Galaxy Thu 09-Dec-21 19:07:12

I say let's not give it a trial run grin

Gwyneth Thu 09-Dec-21 19:11:42

It probably wouldn’t make any difference separating the two as some posters on here manage to politicise just about anything. In fact they seem to make it their goal in life. Quite sad really.

Urmstongran Thu 09-Dec-21 19:13:19

Gwyneth ???

Calistemon Thu 09-Dec-21 19:15:47

As usual with everything on GN and the country as a whole, we are divided ?

varian Thu 09-Dec-21 19:17:33

There is very little on the news which does not have a political dimension and so I don't think it is possible to separate them.

Iam64 Thu 09-Dec-21 19:44:11

O I don’t see how news can be separated from politics. Eg Grenfell Tower, how can that be discussed without political/historical context?

Plus -the personal is political now

Alegrias1 Thu 09-Dec-21 19:44:14

Philosophical thought for the evening.

Perhaps those who have been described as the political people think that almost everything does have a political dimension.

Dog bit a child – do we need more stringent child protection or animal control laws?
Car crash – what was the cause? Was the road icy? Are gritters in short supply because of cuts? Were the hospitals too full to treat the survivors? Why?
Unusually massive tree – Global warming? Arguments in the council over who is responsible for it?

I exaggerate, but you know what I mean…

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Dec-21 20:42:27

Alegrias1

Philosophical thought for the evening.

Perhaps those who have been described as the political people think that almost everything does have a political dimension.

Dog bit a child – do we need more stringent child protection or animal control laws?
Car crash – what was the cause? Was the road icy? Are gritters in short supply because of cuts? Were the hospitals too full to treat the survivors? Why?
Unusually massive tree – Global warming? Arguments in the council over who is responsible for it?

I exaggerate, but you know what I mean…

Some examples of wider politics

Look at art. Perhaps say Maddox Brown or Picasso, Matisse or Bacon, they and thousands of others all have a political element to their work.

Likewise literature. Dickens or Huxley, well tbh there are thousands.

Politics is in everything.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 09-Dec-21 20:44:06

Over the top Algeria’s.

growstuff Thu 09-Dec-21 20:48:51

Gwyneth

It probably wouldn’t make any difference separating the two as some posters on here manage to politicise just about anything. In fact they seem to make it their goal in life. Quite sad really.

Why is it sad?

Urmstongran Thu 09-Dec-21 21:51:40

I can’t help but notice that it’s the prolific posters on the politics threads who are the ones most against splitting News from Politics.
?

And yes, I do understand what you all mean when you say politics can be looped back into from news items. But not always! Chat doesn’t quite cut it either.

I just like the idea of reading a news article or seeing ‘Breaking News’ strapline on tv and being able to head straight to a News forum.

Personally I think it would be a popular decision.

Zoejory Thu 09-Dec-21 21:54:04

I agree, Urmstongran

The politics threads are like Groundhog Day. The same thing said day after day, ad infinitum

Urmstongran Thu 09-Dec-21 22:01:34

Many of us might find ‘News’ more to our liking Zoegory!
Time will tell (if it’s allowed of course).

Urmstongran Thu 09-Dec-21 22:02:36

Not ‘gory’ at all. Apologies.

Lovetopaint037 Thu 09-Dec-21 22:10:47

I find this difficult to differentiate. Our lives are entwined with both. So much of the news is political.

Dinahmo Thu 09-Dec-21 22:15:05

Barmeyoldbat

Over the top Algeria’s.

Not at all. Perhaps some people care more than others about what is happening. I have read in the past at least one person admitting that they were only concerned with their immediate family and friends.

Dinahmo Thu 09-Dec-21 22:18:20

BlueBelle

Totally WRONG Vegansrock and JillyJosie
You couldn’t be more wrong I am totally anti this government the very reason I DONT want every blooming news item to end up with political undertones Tory or Labour or anything else
If I want to talk about a dog biting a child, a car crash or a tree growing to an unusually massive height I DONT. wants to be told it’s political WHATEVER BLOOMING SHADE

I genuinely don't understand what there is to talk about on a subject of a dog biting a child. Everyone would think it terrible and feel very sad for those involved but what else is there to say, apart from discussing the present law, which would be considered to be political.

Urmstongran Thu 09-Dec-21 22:20:17

Oh I think a good deal of us care Dinahmo it’s just that opinions are so polarised these days it would be nice to uncouple News from Politics - even for a trial run. I do agree with the poster who said it can all get a bit Groundhog Day!

Dickens Thu 09-Dec-21 22:27:10

If enough people want their news separated completely from political comment, then why not - if GNHQ will allow it?

It will either attract views and (non-political) comments, or it won't.

But I think GNHQ will have to make it quite clear that NO political comment is allowed on that particular thread.

If individuals want to chat about the news without any political observations, I suppose it could be a useful way of finding out what's happening in the world without having to wade through all the political stuff. Each to her own. It wouldn't interest me at all - I get the news headlines every day from the 'net and TV anyway.

I say yes. Give it a try.

Dinahmo Thu 09-Dec-21 22:27:25

Earlier this evening I counted the number of topics in the N & P section and there were 27, only 1 of which didn't really have a political element and that was Carrie's baby. Now there are 29 but, just looking at the titles, there is still just the baby that isn't political. I am aware that there are a few comments aimed at Johnson but no one can in all honesty claim that the birth of a baby is political news, rather than just news.

Josianne Thu 09-Dec-21 22:28:15

Dog biting child:
supervision
provocation, threat
infection, treatment, scars
rabies cases
breeds of dog
destruction of the dog
insurance

just a few non political things to discuss if people are interested.

Dinahmo Thu 09-Dec-21 22:31:15

Dickens I would have thought it's fairly obvious which threads are political. I see no reason for anybody wading through each one.

If the topics were separated I doubt that those asking for this would keep off the politics topics. It might be good if they did because then the rest of us would not need to keep repeating the same old, same old, when statement are clearly erroneous.

Dinahmo Thu 09-Dec-21 22:32:39

Josianne

Dog biting child:
supervision
provocation, threat
infection, treatment, scars
rabies cases
breeds of dog
destruction of the dog
insurance

just a few non political things to discuss if people are interested.

There is already a section for pets and all those topics have been covered within that section at different times.

Galaxy Thu 09-Dec-21 22:37:34

But I dont want people to talk about breeds of dog so I think I should be able to say people arent allowed to talk about that on a particular thread. There should be a rule that chat about breeds of dog is not allowed on news threads.