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JessM Sat 03-Dec-11 08:18:15

Wales - Australia at 2pm today in the Millennium Stadium.
Shane's last international match!!! I suspect he will get a bit of applause...
Wales have a few injuries, and Australia have played their way through S Hemisphere season, followed by World Cup. Should be interesting.

Annobel Tue 28-Feb-12 12:51:11

Yes, mrshat, whichever Lamont it was broke his leg, so that's his six nations over for this year.

Jacey Sun 04-Mar-12 17:40:49

Well Done Ireland!! You showed 'true grit' sunshine

mrshat Sun 04-Mar-12 18:13:21

But not quite enough Jacey! So disappointed for them, I just don't know what happened to them in the second half. They seemed very 'down' after the match. Still, better to be optimistic and be pleased for a draw and not a loss. Now, I guess it will be Wales for the Grand Slam - but you never know what France will pull out of the hat next week hmm

Jacey Sun 04-Mar-12 18:18:20

I know mrshat ...but at least they maintained their grip in the last minutes!! It would have been so much worse to have lost then...and it was an away result.

Annobel Sun 04-Mar-12 19:00:23

It was an entertaining match, although it would have been good to see Ireland holding onto the lead. I think they are still missing O'Driscoll.

Jacey Sun 11-Mar-12 11:03:02

Why is it that a player thinks he can argue with a ref ..."I didn't do it!" ...when those of us sitting comfortably at home have seen the re-play and those in the stadium can watch it on the big screen? confused

And then the second 'no-brainer' is to turn away and swear at the ref? Which we can all hear?? shock

Annobel Sun 11-Mar-12 11:27:08

Too right, Jacey. It has always been rugby's boast that players respected the referee and it's a sad day if they have adopted the manners of footballers. I enjoyed yesterday's matches except for the fact that Scotland, despite long periods of possession, seemed unable to capitalise on it. Wooden spoon is now between Scotland and Italy - again.

Oldgreymare Sun 11-Mar-12 12:35:56

Watched Wales/Italy while ironing sheets..... both a tad boring ( never thought I'd say that!) Wales will have to raise their game if they are to defeat France next w/end.
'Still there is Cheltenham in between..... yippee!

JessM Sun 11-Mar-12 13:16:11

Yes the Italian defence was pretty effective wasn't it OGM. But I certainly didn't have the heart to talk much interest in the Irish game after that.
I was pleased for Jamie Roberts though getting a try.

Annobel Sun 11-Mar-12 13:23:31

For me the high point (in more ways than one) of the Scotland Ireland match was seeing the big blond giant, Richie Gray, charging towards the line, brushing aside lesser mortals.

Jacey Sun 11-Mar-12 16:53:42

Well ...nearly gave up watching that ...nerves couldn't take them giving away so many penalties. But first time I'd found the commentary intrusive ...banging on about the decisions of the referee etc.
A good result for Wales too?hmm

mrshat Sun 11-Mar-12 17:49:35

Well, a happy household this weekend. Ireland did very well against Scotland, much to everyone's surprise I think and DH is very content with England's win against France today. It was a bit 'nail biting' towards the end but well done to the youngsters for holding on in there. The 'big one' for me is next weekend when England play Ireland at Twickenham. I am on my own in a family all cheering for England, but maybe one son in law (Scotland fan) might come over to my side .................. Whatever, I hope it is a good game. Pleased there were no major injuries today, I am still unsure how the Scotland player is who was badly concussed yesterday. Still in hospital last I heard. hmm

JessM Sun 11-Mar-12 21:14:27

You think a Scot might cheer for England when another celtic nation are involved. Where have you been mrshat ? I know Welsh people who would cheer for any nation before England. (which is taking a grudge a bit far, and I am not one of them). But as a welsh person my natural sympathies would always be with ireland or scotland if playing against england. And I live in england. The difficult one for me would be Ireland against NZ. That would be a real conundrum. smile

Annobel Sun 11-Mar-12 21:47:15

I am one of those Scots who cheer for England if Scotland isn't playing. After all, I have lived here longer than I lived in Scotland and my sons are English! My sister, who lives in NZ is a staunch fanatical All Blacks supporter and had the nerve to take me to task for supporting England!

Annobel Sun 11-Mar-12 21:48:41

And, yes, I was on the edge of my chair this afternoon and delighted with the result.

Jacey Sun 11-Mar-12 21:50:25

Yes JessM I support Wales when England not playing!!smile

JessM Mon 12-Mar-12 09:06:58

It is all very strange isn't it, national allegiance.
There is a more than a little "the English are the enemy" feeling in Wales certainly. The Irish on the other hand don't properly appreciate the nuances. They often refer to "the british" which requires a reminder that Wales was also a downtrodden colony smile
I suppose some people enjoy nursing a grudge. It's my favourite grudge and no one is going to take it away!

Annobel Mon 12-Mar-12 09:17:16

In New Zealand you see tee shirts with the slogan: 'I support the All Blacks and any team playing against Australia'.

Elegran Mon 12-Mar-12 10:01:30

"Them next door" are always the enemy, whoever they are, probably because we know more about their faults than about those who live a bit further away.

Pennysue Mon 12-Mar-12 11:15:32

Sorry to go all serious (sort of) but the English working people were as downtrodden as every other nation, but for whatever reason are seen as the oppressor. Having done my family tree, they were just as oppressed. Put off land when they could not afford to enclose it, working in mines, mills, Shoved up chimneys, starving during the agricultural revolution, press ganged etc. etc,

I support England, but watch the other games and enjoy without prejudice, just very happy when we beat any of the fringe nations!grin

Elegran Mon 12-Mar-12 12:05:14

I suspect that the Scots and Welsh mostly had contact with the same kind of landlord class of Englishmen who were oppressing the English poor.

Annobel Mon 12-Mar-12 12:34:17

Read the words of Flower of Scotland. It's about Bannockburn - 698 years ago. Do we never forget? In Ulster it's the Battle of the Boyne - don't know if Wales has anything comparable.

mrshat Mon 12-Mar-12 17:11:13

Yes JessM my son-in law who claims to be a Scot will cheer for Ireland anytime before he will cheer for England (his blood line is Irish/English but he lived in Scotland for virtually all of his youth!). It can get a bit difficult as other son in law is a fanatical English fan and takes the whole thing far too seriously. However, for the Irish the biggest match is the England v Ireland game but the rivalry is always kept to the 'pitch' and the good feeling afterwards is enjoyed by all. grin
Like you Annobel I have lived in England longer than I did Ireland, my daughters were born in England, DH is English, so I support England if Ireland are not playing. Sometimes it is hard to remember 'it is just a game' - but that thought should never cross my mind .....................................hmm

JessM Mon 12-Mar-12 17:19:29

you are right pennysue up to a point. But us celts were invaded with armies and had a foreign language and culture imposed on us. We were occupied by a foreign power. Wales is chock full of huge great military outposts (castles) that were needed to maintain this state of affairs. Welsh speakers recall bitterly that is it not so long ago that children were beaten if they spoke Welsh in school.
That is what some people remember and not just the class oppression that came with it. Double whammy I'm afraid.

Pennysue Mon 12-Mar-12 18:22:55

I know - however, statistical, the people of Great Britain, including England have a majority of celtic genes. Apart from Northern Scotland of course.