expensive face creams

NCT have been boycotting Nestle for years too. The difficult bit is finding out who owns what, I try to buy ethically but then find out something like L'Oreal being part owned by Nestle! Cosmetics and such is a tricky area as wehva e discussed before; animal testing is easy to avoid on products bought here, but I understand that in China no products can be sold without animal testing?So, although i dont buy my shampoo or mascara in or from China, if the company of manufacture exports to China then I am unwittingly buying from a company that does test on animals.

I boycott L'Oreal anyway because they test on animals, but the Nestlé connection is another very good reason to avoid them.

Despite the EU law against testing cosmetics on animals, which was introduced last year, there remain many loopholes about companies using ingredients tested outside the EU, not to mention the whole issue of the companies that are selling in China where testing on animals is mandatory, as you highlight Gill. So many formerly 'cruelty free' companies have sold out to enter the Chinese market. It's sickening that they would put profits before their avowed principles. If anything, I think it's more difficult to identify cruelty free companies now than it has ever been.

Beauty Without Cruelty has a range of ethically produced cosmetics which I have used in the past and found them as good as any.

Yes anno they are always reliable. Their range is a bit limited though. I like dermalogica who did expand into China but when they realised the full implications for animals they had the guts to pull out, unlike most other companies. I think they should be applauded for this. Their products are expensive but they are very good for sensitive skins like mine.

Lush products are ethically sourced and produced. Ages ago, there was a mail order company called Cosmetics to Go. I loved their products and was amazed and pleased when they morphed into Lush. I do hope they haven't been/never will be taken over.

I had no idea cosmetics to go had morphed into Lush anno. Nor did I know about the early links to the Body Shop, or the founders' attempts to buy the Body Shop when the Roddicks sold it. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of reading more about this. I like Lush products and feel even more inspired to buy more of them now. They're not expensive either.

I have skin allergies and buy a simple organic moisturiser from a company called Pure Nuff Stuff. Before my allergies developed I used Boots No 17 brand, the cheapest I could then get

I think most of the 'science' around skincare for older women is bullsh*t. As far as I am concerned, all that is needed is to use moisturiser morning and evening, lots of it and massage it in.

Nobody has mentioned Nivea, which is all I ever use on my face. It has to be the softer sort in a white tub. Would I be wrinkle-free if I used something else instead?
I never wear make up and wash in only water, keep out of the sun, never smoked and never expected to get thin wrinkled skin. Sob.

If the Nestle boycott has been going on since 1977! - why does it not seem to have had the blindest bit of effect? Or so I would deduce

Yes, Nestle part own L'Oreal and therefore Body Shop and it is said they will own it 100% when the elderly lady who owns the rest dies.

There are so many more unethical things they continue to do including bottling water in Pakistan and thereby depriving people from a natural source of water.

All any of can do is spread the word about the companies they own which, incidentally include Purina which is one of the major petfood companies. The other is Mars and there are actually not many of them. check your brands carefully.

Anyone else allergic to Nivea? I have a very bad reaction and recently discovered it contains a product which is also in cleaning solutions which causes reactions in some people.