Archers Addicts 5 !!!!!

Whatever happened to Nic + her children? Poppy must be getting on now. Not a word.

Well! I'm Shame on you, Elizabeth! "Lily has been sending out the INVITES" !!!!

You'll be talking about serviettes next!

Sad to hear Sara Coward (Caroline Sterling) has terminal cancer.

Toby strikes again!

Yes. It is sad about Sara Coward. I wonder if they'll write Oliver out if when they retire to Tuscany.

How many geese does Rex have to slaughter and dress? There's no mention of a mechanical plucker or anything other than a bit of half-hearted help from Josh.

Yes very sad about Sara Coward. She has been in the Archers a long time and I wondered why she had suddenly decided to up sticks to Italy. I am getting bored with TA lately, turkeys, gin and PIp! May give it a rest for a while and check on here to see if anything interesting's happening.......

Pleased that we just heard about the hearing from Pat,Anna + Helens reactions and didn't have to sit through it.
What will Rob do with all those bedrooms now.
Some please just tell Henry he won't be seeing Rob any more + get it over with.

Poor Alan, trying to deal with Rob, enough to test anyone's faith! Being the vicar he can't get out of an unpleasant situation. Sounds as if there could be a scene at the Nativity! Or will Rob make a run for it with poor little Jack, he needs sectioning.
As for Toby - how dare the little barsteward speak to Jill like that?! She's a tough lady but such contempt as he called her 'Grandma' - nasty! Let's hope that sooner or later he drops his guard in front of Pip. There's always Rex to pick up the pieces of her broken heart.

Let's face it Jills a bit up herself sometimes and needs a bit of a talking to. Why can't Toby have a gin business ( legally)? What's the betting she's invited him for Christmas?

I meant to say Pip will invite Toby for Christmas.

Of course Toby will appear for Christmas dinner. That's the big Christmas Day fiasco. But before then we have the anticipation of Rob coming to the Nativity with an enormous present.

Has it actually been explained why Jill is so anti Toby? I think it's something to do with Grace Archer but my memory doesn't go back that far - I have problems with last week.

Do we think Rob has already decorated ' his boys' rooms in suitably boarding school chic?
Maybe he'll be sitting in the flat like Miss Haversham waiting for them to arrive.

Grace Archer was a Fairbrother and I think it was Toby's dad who treated Elizabeth badly, but I do not know the exact relationships.
Can anyone help?

I think that's right, Daphne. Jill always had a thing about having to live up to Grace in Phil's eyes that's why she is so wistful about Hollowtree which was their first marital home. Robin Fairbrother (Toby's father) was a love rat who let Elizabeth down but I wasn't listening during that time so not sure of all the facts.

I do think Jill could use a few lessons from us in how to keep it zipped at crucial times like Christmas. David clearly dislikes Toby but is doing his best to keep the peace.

Put your wooden spoon away, Jill.

Did anyone see the flavoured gins being made on The Apprentice? I have seen other TV programmes which mention them. Perhaps there is a business opportunity there, but sadly not for Toby who will never stick at anything for long!

Toby's father impregnated a young Elizabeth, who went on to have a termination.

Was Elizabeth actually pregnant? I thought he just left her at a ? Motorway service station but memory is a bit hazy. I think there will be drama featuring Rob around Christmas - they do have previous for it eg Nigel......Wonder who will be the casualty?

Elizabeth had a termination , at the same time Shulagh was trying to get pregnant

Oh dear! Some of us on here have been listening for far too long. Elizabeth's illegitimate pregnancy was in 1992. (I had to look I am not that addicted!)

"Handsome Cameron Fraser bought the Berrow Estate in Ambridge in 1990, immediately becoming the largest landowner in the area. At first this plausible Scot appeared charming, but he soon showed his arrogance and impatience with those who had to work for him."

It does not appear to have been Toby Fairweathers dad at all. It was A business man Cameron Fraser who was two timing Elizabeth with Caroline Bone. now Sterling.
I think I am missing something here. Unless I have got something wrong why did Jill take so badly to The Fairbrothers? We need some older Archers addicts than me to get this.

Does this help?
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thearchers/entries/237b2178-92f9-444e-a4bb-4130a8b57e30
I am sitting here fuming because OH CBA to use the carpet shampoo machine and wandered off to the shop after faffing about all morning. He is physically fit just can't cope with being asked to do something. I have been deep Christmas cleaning the house for the last few days.

Deep Christmas cleaning??? Never crossed my mind to do such a thing! Are you having people to stay? I hope you manage to get OH off his a*se! Perhaps you will be too busy to cook for him

My little toddler DGS is quite near the floor.

Shysal don't discourage me when it comes to cleaning I need some reason not to be a total slut.

Am I the only one who's feeling a bit sorry for Toby?

Ah - I was wrong - I had Elizabeth impregnated by the wrong person - oops!