Archers Addicts 5 !!!!!

Good for Jennifer. Lilian is behaving like an old slapper and Justin is using her.

I hope Miranda divorces him, cites Lilian and takes him to the cleaners.

Ooohh Lilian!!!!

I never thought The Archers would drive me back to Aristotle's Poetics, which has been untouched on my shelves for some years, but I was so indignant at the way the script has treated Kirsty (now back and very fragile, I think) that I blew the dust off and had a look at what he says on tragedy. "A good man (he regards women as inferior and leaves them out of account) must not be shown as passing from happiness to misfortune; for that does not inspire pity or fear, but is an outrage upon our moral feeling." Which is how I felt about her miscarriage.

He then refers to the "intermediate sort of person, one who is not pre-eminently virtuous and just, one who incurs misfortune not as a result of vice or depravity, but by some error of judgement while enjoying great reputation and prosperity." Kirsty has been pre-eminently virtuous and just compared with most of the characters; she could not be accused of vice or depravity by our standards, and her only error of judgement lay in being too carelessly willing to celebrate Helen's acquittal with Tom. To descend from Aristotle to Gilbert and Sullivan, not only does her punishment fit the crime, but it is out of all proportion to it.

I don't think Aristotle would have approved of the editor and SWs.

Thanks for the link GGMK2, that made me smile.

Nor mine LG . I have to take my hat off to the University of Sterling for this.

Thanks GG2 but not sure Jazzer would have been my choice for the biggest pecker

Five Crucial Questions About Ambridge Answered (by Academics)

It sounded to me as if he had just asked Oliver if he minded them having people to stay now and then Merlot. Poor Clarrie. She is a good friend to Helen - and they need that at the moment.

I don't believe that Eddie has rung Oliver. Why does Clarrie always gives in to Eddies stupid ideas instead of challenging him or ringing Caroline or Oliver herself.

Or should I be asking why SWs keep using these same old Grundy family disaster stories.

Clarrie's lovely and guess who will end up doing all the work in Eddie's new big idea.

Did he really ring Oliver I wonder?

Wisdom about concern for DC from Clarrie to Pat this evening:
'You never get used to it, you just do your best.'

I thought 'Kirsty' played the episode so well. She sounded shocked past belief.

I agree Iam we all need at least some normality even if they can't manage positive.

i know and that may be was happens. What we all want is some happiness for Kirsty

I've got Kirsty marked down for Roy.

I listened to this evening's Archers and found myself tearful in the scenes between Kirsty and Helen but those between Kirsty and Tom especially. A little boy, probably perfectly formed and obviously a tiny baby for these parents to say hello and goodbye to. Heart breaking and sensitively handled by the Archers script writers and their actors.
I know I'm soft - but I did find myself hoping that Tom and Kirsty can gradually fall in love with each other and live happily ever after.

There's a thread Merlot just my post so far.

It's just been on the lunchtime News that Sara Coward who plays Caroline Sterling has died.

We all knew she was terminally ill but sad news.

Poor girl.

There would be no point in suppressing labour MawBroon as it sounds like labour was caused by an infection which may have affected the baby. I really like Kirsty and am very sad about this cruel storyline. Yes think she may be around 24 weeks Iam64.

Can't a "stitch" be inserted round the neck of the uterus and some drugs given to suppress labour?

Last night's episode was beyond sad and well acted I thought. It's remotely possible Kirsty's baby could survive, was the 20 week scan 4 weeks ago? I know 24 weeks is very early but neo natal care is good. See, it's real life to me and I believe that as well as Kirsty needing some positives, so do TA fans. Enough sadness and horror.

Is this the "bad news" style of East Enders still playing out its way out of TA? If so I hope we have some of the 'ordinary' soon, that makes TA what it has always been.

I suppose it opens up the possibility of a relationship between Kirsty and Roy which would have been "complicated" by Tom's baby. But so sad.

They have hastily got rid of Rob and now Kirsty's baby, which could have been an interesting storyline has also come to an abrupt end (unless there's an overnight miracle)

Will Kirsty now leave Ambridge?

Will Peggy ask for her money back?

Did they really have to do that? I know it's only fiction but it will stir sad memories for so many listeners.