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Howard's End

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Deedaa Mon 13-Nov-17 21:05:51

Any one watching? I nearly didn't bother but I really enjoyed the first part. It's years since I last read the book so don't remember much of the story.

lemongrove Tue 28-Nov-17 10:20:19

I know what you mean Greyduster but I think she feels that it would be lovely for somebody else to take charge of things for a change, as she has been doing this for most of her life.She has no illusions about his nature, but he will be kind to her and generous, and to her family.There is also the social expectation that a woman isn’t complete until she is married and the status that comes with it, especially to a very wealthy man.Plus she wants to have sex with him ( that always helps) grin

DanniRae Tue 28-Nov-17 10:09:33

Oh Greyduster I don't think I know what you mean about Mr Wilcox. I must be dim - can you explain, please? confused

Greyduster Tue 28-Nov-17 09:36:42

I’m starting to find them all annoying. Isn’t Tibby a student, Dannirae? They seem to spend more time at home than anywhere else! I must say I can’t see why Margaret hasn’t seen right through Mr Wilcox. I would have run a mile by now.

lemongrove Tue 28-Nov-17 09:30:18

gullygranny yes, exactly my feelings too.
DanniRae yes, or a job!

DanniRae Tue 28-Nov-17 08:43:10

I am certainly finding Margaret and Helen's brother annoying - is he ill? He just seems to droop about all the time. Maybe he needs a good dose of syrup of figs - that'd sort him out!!

SueDonim Mon 27-Nov-17 20:34:45

Oh yes, that hat! I loved the street scene where everything was grey-looking apart from Margaret's red scarf.

I am finding the characters a bit annoying. grin

gulligranny Mon 27-Nov-17 18:38:14

Margaret's hat is mesmerising. And those exquisite teacups!
The photography is stunningly beautiful, every shot perfectly framed and lit (that's from my ex-lighting director husband). But there is a lack of passion about the whole thing that, while not turning me off exactly, has set my enjoyment at a lower level that I expected it to be.

lemongrove Thu 23-Nov-17 23:36:53

Am finding all the characters a bit, well, either boring or annoying tbh.
Well acted, good attention to period detail in every way though.

mrsmopp Thu 23-Nov-17 23:33:06

I am really enjoying this. Such a change from all the rubbish we get that it's great to watch a good classic drama, beautifully acted.
Just cut out the background music when people are speaking please! But then that's true about a lots of programmes I'm afraid. Sign of the times...

grannyticktock Tue 21-Nov-17 22:39:43

I'm really enjoying it. I'm finding the characters believable and I like that the Schlegels do actually look as if they could be sisters. Tibby reminds me of a youth I know, and Tracey Ullman is excellent. Looking forward to the remaining episodes.

DanniRae Tue 21-Nov-17 09:42:36

Well I have just watched the 2nd episode and sorry to say didn't enjoy it as much as the 1st. Nearly gave up but stuck with it - I'll see how episode 3 goes.
I must say I find the settings beautiful and costumes first class.

ginny Tue 21-Nov-17 08:51:32

I’m enjoying it. No problem with hearing what they say. As someone else said DH finds it too ‘ wordy’ . Just realised that Tibby is played by the same chap as the grown up Christopher Robin in Goodbye C R .

Blinko Tue 21-Nov-17 08:18:33

I started off being most irritated with the whole set up. The social mores, as well as speaking too fast and so affectedly. Though I thought the sets and costumes were superb.

Second week, and I find I'm 'getting' it rather better. I'll continue watching. I saw the film but can't really recall the storyline, only the lovely settings.

mostlyharmless Mon 20-Nov-17 22:35:16

I've just tried looking at reviews of it and find that the Guardian and the Telegraph both squabbling about the way the jam spoon was used and the correct etiquette about the wearing of hats!
Such important social issues!

mostlyharmless Mon 20-Nov-17 22:27:29

I'm really enjoying it. I read it many years ago but can't remember any detail. (I was convinced that the book started with the missing umbrella incident but was wrong it seems.)

I love the houses, the costumes, the streets of London but the lack of understanding between different social strata is the most fascinating bit for me. As others have said above - still so relevant today.

Tegan2 Mon 20-Nov-17 20:12:34

I missed the first few minutes of this weeks episode [fell asleep in the bath!] and the S.O. told me what had happened so spent the whole episode wondering why the thing that he told me about hadn't happened [sorry to talk in riddles but don't want to spoil it for anyone like me that hasn't seen the film/read the book!].

Greyduster Mon 20-Nov-17 16:57:41

It must be so much easier reading the book - they can’t all talk at once!?

Lona Mon 20-Nov-17 16:52:09

I've just watched the second episode, and I still love it. I think the casting is much better than the film. I found Emma Thompson playing herself was annoying and Anthony Hopkins too pompous to be at all attractive.
It's also beautifully shot.
Some people seem to be experiencing difficulties hearing the dialogue but I thought it was perfectly audible.

Luckygirl Mon 20-Nov-17 14:27:42

I am watching it, just to see how the book has been interpreted. I found it a chilling book; and Forster was a strange fellow, known for his sexual exploitation of young men who were mainly Indian subjects of British rule and thus under his thumb financially and socially.

I think the series is well acted and cast.

SueDonim Mon 20-Nov-17 13:47:35

Hahaha, Greyduster! grin

Yes, they do speak very quickly. Though it's a bit stream-of-consciousness so I'm not sure how important it is to get every last word.

I love the clothes, too.

ninathenana Mon 20-Nov-17 12:09:15

loopyloo I was disappointed to find Wickham Place was not in the A-Z

loopyloo Mon 20-Nov-17 12:06:35

I spent my time working out which streets they were walking in and what was computer graphics. And anything that was an anachronism.
But yes enjoyed it although the music was a bit loud.

Eloethan Mon 20-Nov-17 11:59:36

I enjoyed the film up until the end, which I found upsetting so I decided not to watch the TV version although I'm sure they've done it very well.

Tegan2 Mon 20-Nov-17 11:58:23

I love their clothes, especially the coats.

ninathenana Mon 20-Nov-17 11:44:13

They seem to talk very fast, I confess half the time I struggle to know what they are on about blush